330lover
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AF To South America - What To Expect?

Fri Aug 31, 2012 1:53 pm

Forget my earlier topic about AZ to South America, it will be AF!

So, what can we expect from AF, CDG-EZE on 772 and GIG-CDG on 332.
Service, catering, IFE, overall experience,...

What's the real difference between Voyageur and Premium Voyageur. Chances are big we will be in premium.

Thanks for all possible info.
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rafabullara
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RE: AF To South America - What To Expect?

Fri Aug 31, 2012 9:07 pm

I don't know why, but AF really has a loooooong affair history with Rio.

The "cariocas" usually point AF as Rio flagship carrier.

I guess you'll get the usual on AF, try searching for a TR at the other forum.
 
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RE: AF To South America - What To Expect?

Fri Aug 31, 2012 11:26 pm

My experience of premium voyager (which I have only done nyc-cdg and vv) is that it is excellent value. The seats are larger and there is more space overall (sideways, legroom). There is a decent footrest. The tray table is really large iirc which means you can successfully multi-task.

So while it is not business by a long shot, it is far more comfortable than economy. Just in terms of not being cramped in, it is very worth it. If you can get the seats aisle and window you have a nice set up.

I'm pretty sure there are trip reports.
 
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RE: AF To South America - What To Expect?

Sat Sep 01, 2012 1:24 am

I´ve only done C and F on AF on CDG-IAH and CDG-MEX.

In my opinion is that they are somewhat inconsistent. Within a certain range obviously. Varying between an excellent LH-like crew or a good, average crew. The food is obviously excellent. Try ordering the more obviously French cuisine entrees and you can´t go wrong. The wine and champagne options are obviously fantastic. IFE is average.

You may have to be assertive with the crew, but once they notice you are like that they´ll pay much more attention to you. Lastly, it´s not a requisite, but learning some basic French words (if you don´t already know some) will get you a long way in your entire AF experience.

Hope this helps.
 
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RE: AF To South America - What To Expect?

Sat Sep 01, 2012 11:56 am

Quoting rafabullara (Reply 1):
try searching for a TR at the other forum.

Did that but had not much time to read the stories in full... yet. Thanks.

Quoting workwings (Reply 2):
you can successfully multi-task.

Multitask as in working op laptop and following the inflight map...
Or as is watching a movie and enjoying a glass of wine (or 2)...?

Weel, being night flights both ways, main task will be sleeping (or trying to)

Quoting AR385 (Reply 3):
learning some basic French words (if you don´t already know some)

Well, being a Belgian, so having 3 official languages, one of them being French, I do speak it quite good actually. As it should be for a good Belgian (but that's just my opinion).
So hope that they ignore my 'septante' and 'nonante' in stead of 'soixante-dix' and 'quantre-vingt-dix'.


Thanks for your replies.
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RE: AF To South America - What To Expect?

Sat Sep 01, 2012 7:39 pm

Quoting 330lover (Reply 4):
Well, being a Belgian, so having 3 official languages, one of them being French, I do speak it quite good actually. As it should be for a good Belgian (but that's just my opinion).

I know not so few Flemish Belgians who can´t speak a word of French. So, you just can´t assume....
 
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RE: AF To South America - What To Expect?

Sun Sep 02, 2012 4:58 pm

Quoting AR385 (Reply 5):

I know not so few Flemish Belgians who can´t speak a word of French. So, you just can´t assume....

True, unfortunately. But that's another story.
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RE: AF To South America - What To Expect?

Thu Sep 06, 2012 2:11 pm

Which camera's does AF have on their 772 and 332? Nose and belly? Or none?
Not that important, just curious...
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RE: AF To South America - What To Expect?

Sat Sep 08, 2012 6:12 pm

Quoting 330lover (Reply 7):

Nose and belly on A332 & B77W. None on the B772ER.
 
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RE: AF To South America - What To Expect?

Sun Sep 09, 2012 5:04 pm

Quoting FlySSC (Reply 8):
Nose and belly on A332 & B77W. None on the B772ER.

Thanks!
departure is on 772, but camera not imporant at all as departure is at 2320, so dark as hell.
Return on 332, so I'll probably try to follow landing in daylight.

Cheers!
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RE: AF To South America - What To Expect?

Mon Sep 10, 2012 4:58 pm

Quoting 330lover (Thread starter):
GIG-CDG on 332.

Try to get a 744 instead of an A332: the new 744 cabin in Y is great according to what I heard.
I wouldn't fly an AF A332 out of GIG   
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RE: AF To South America - What To Expect?

Tue Sep 11, 2012 9:50 am

Quoting LY777 (Reply 10):
Try to get a 744 instead of an A332: the new 744 cabin in Y is great according to what I heard.
I wouldn't fly an AF A332 out of GIG

OTOH, the 332 with its 2-4-2 config is more attractive, as we are 2. But in the end, this is not the main reason. We're in Y+, which is AFAIK not on 744.

Thanks for the advise anyhow, I'll keep is in mind for future bookings.
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RE: AF To South America - What To Expect?

Tue Sep 11, 2012 1:29 pm

Quoting LY777 (Reply 10):

Why not flying an AF A332 out of GIG ???

Quoting 330lover (Reply 11):

Correct. No Y+ on board the AF B744, but true indeed, the new cabin in Y & J + the new Panasonic IFE are really great
 
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RE: AF To South America - What To Expect?

Tue Sep 11, 2012 1:49 pm

Quoting FlySSC (Reply 12):
Quoting LY777 (Reply 10):

Why not flying an AF A332 out of GIG ???

Think he is still referring to AF447. No reason to me not to fly it, though.
Is there any difference in Y+ between aircraft types at AF? Think all are the same, right?
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RE: AF To South America - What To Expect?

Tue Sep 11, 2012 2:41 pm

Quoting FlySSC (Reply 12):
Why not flying an AF A332 out of GIG ???

Bad memories of AF447 indeed  
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RE: AF To South America - What To Expect?

Wed Sep 12, 2012 6:22 am

Quoting 330lover (Reply 13):
Is there any difference in Y+ between aircraft types at AF? Think all are the same, right?

Yes, they're all the same whatever the aircraft.
 
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RE: AF To South America - What To Expect?

Tue Sep 18, 2012 3:03 pm

Another question came up, about catering.

Is there one standard meal, or will we have a choice between 2?
What are the meals like in Premium Voyageur?

Thanks a lot!
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RE: AF To South America - What To Expect?

Sun Sep 23, 2012 3:56 am

Quoting 330lover (Reply 16):
Another question came up, about catering.

Is there one standard meal, or will we have a choice between 2?
What are the meals like in Premium Voyageur?

you have the chose between 2 main courses. The meal in PV is a slightly enhanced version of the Y meal (enhanced apetizer and dessert). From CDG, you can also order one of their enhanced meals (cost between 18 and 30 €). They're quite nice. You have to do this on-line max the day before departure and before checking-in.

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