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Is EWR A New York Airport?

Mon Sep 03, 2012 9:46 am

Saw this on another thread....( Your 5 Favourites (by SRQKEF Jul 23 2012 in Aviation Polls) )

Quoting Rwy04LGA (Reply 44):
My 2 peeves....that EWR is a NYC airport(it's NOT)...

I'm aware that many of the cities / boroughs / counties in the area have very strong identities and people are very proud, even patriotic to be from a certain locale.

Is this the real reason why many don't, or simply won't consider EWR to be a New York airport? IATA's city code "NYC" specifically includes EWR with JFK and LGA.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...airports_in_the_New_York_City_area

I appreciate that it isn't in New York city or even state, but I don't really buy that as a reason given that:

LGW is not within the boundaries of Greater London
CDG is not within the boundaries of Paris (as far as I can tell - please correct me if I'm wrong)
YYZ is not within the boundaries of Toronto (again, please correct me if I'm wrong)

EWR is closer to New York City than any of the above three examples but yet the opinion above persists.

Can anyone explain the reasoning behind this conflict of opinion?

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RE: Is EWR A New York Airport?

Mon Sep 03, 2012 12:49 pm

In some ways you answered your own question with these two bits:

1) opinion - people form beliefs from a variety of sources, facts are not required

2) states - pick any two neighboring states and people near the boundaries will tell you stories about folks from the other state. This is long established and traces roots back to the founding of the country (and before).

As one who lives in NYC (Manhattan) I consider EWR to be a NYC-area airport, just as I feel about IAD being a Washington, DC area airport (DCA is not in DC either). This is, of course, my opinion. I still don't fly to/from EWR (or JFK) all that often as it is easier to get to LGA from where I live (uptown), I don't mind connecting flights, and prices are often similar.

One last thing - when Fiorello LaGuardia was mayor of NYC he famously refused to leave a plane on arrival at EWR as he paid for a ticket to New York City and wanted to be flown to NYC. At the time Floyd Bennett field did not have commercial service.
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RE: Is EWR A New York Airport?

Mon Sep 03, 2012 2:54 pm

I fly into the New York City area 3-4 times a month and most certainly consider EWR to be a New York City airport. Using mass transit, it takes me as long to get to Midtown from EWR as it does JFK or LGA.

It's not convenient for people out on Long Island, but JFK isn't convenient at all for my family out in New Jersey.
 
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RE: Is EWR A New York Airport?

Mon Sep 03, 2012 3:22 pm

We have had numerous debates on this in the civav forum...

Yes it is considered by most.
 
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RE: Is EWR A New York Airport?

Mon Sep 03, 2012 3:51 pm

For all intents and purposes, yes.
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RE: Is EWR A New York Airport?

Mon Sep 03, 2012 6:09 pm

Do the people who consider EWR not a New York City airport also consider that CVG is not a Cincinnati airport? CVG is certainly not in Cincinnati. It's not even in Ohio. It's across the river in Kentucky. To be consistent, anyone who does not consider EWR a New York City airport must not consider CVG to be a Cincinnati airport. It's only fair.
 
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RE: Is EWR A New York Airport?

Mon Sep 03, 2012 9:38 pm

Newark is more New York than LGA or JFK. So, the answer to the question is, yes, Newark is a New York Airport.

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RE: Is EWR A New York Airport?

Mon Sep 03, 2012 9:51 pm

If the FAA considers EWR a NYC airport, then that's what we should go by.
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RE: Is EWR A New York Airport?

Mon Sep 03, 2012 10:36 pm

It seems most would consider EWR to be a NYC airport.

Quoting Birdwatching (Reply 6):
Newark is more New York than LGA or JFK.

Why do you think this?
 
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RE: Is EWR A New York Airport?

Tue Sep 04, 2012 3:15 am

Yes, EWR is a New York City airport, but:

Quoting Birdwatching (Reply 6):
Newark is more New York than LGA or JFK.


You've got some explaining to do on that one.

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RE: Is EWR A New York Airport?

Tue Sep 04, 2012 8:50 pm

Quoting Mir (Reply 9):
You've got some explaining to do on that one.

At least from Manhattan, EWR is the most convenient and closest airport, by far. This is my opinion at least.

But now that they are planning that Central Park airport, things might change.

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RE: Is EWR A New York Airport?

Tue Sep 04, 2012 10:07 pm

I most certainly would consider EWR a New York City Airport.
 
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RE: Is EWR A New York Airport?

Tue Sep 04, 2012 10:30 pm

Quoting Birdwatching (Reply 10):
At least from Manhattan, EWR is the most convenient and closest airport, by far. This is my opinion at least.

Depends on where you are in Manhattan. It's a long skinny island. I live and work north of Central Park and that puts LGA notably closer than EWR.
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RE: Is EWR A New York Airport?

Wed Sep 05, 2012 4:13 am

Quoting Birdwatching (Reply 10):
At least from Manhattan, EWR is the most convenient and closest airport, by far. This is my opinion at least.

I live on the West Side of Manhattan, and I can get to LGA in 20 minutes. It's at least 30 to EWR.

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RE: Is EWR A New York Airport?

Fri Sep 07, 2012 1:19 pm

Technically, Newark is a New Jersey Airport because it sits in the State of New Jersey.

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RE: Is EWR A New York Airport?

Sat Sep 08, 2012 6:27 am

Two answers - WTF wants to go to Newark, except to land at that airport and go straight to NY by the quickest method?

Second - the airport is operated by the PANYNJ , as is JFK and LGA which makes it a NY airport, as well as a NJ airport of course.
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RE: Is EWR A New York Airport?

Sat Sep 08, 2012 1:28 pm

Argue all you want, EWR is not and will not ever be a NYC airport. It's a NYC 'area' airport. It serves NYC, but it's not actually in NYC. Yes, S.I. is closer to EWR than either LGA or JFK, but who wants to be from there, anyway? An airport in Central Park? It'll never happen. As to LHR and LGW (&LCY), The L in each of those names means LONDON. However, when non-reving, EWR is close enough to NYC to be a viable option to get home(and taking a shower ASAP). Which reminds me, they should use EWW instead of EWR.   
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