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Longest Routes, Definitively! (Part XXVII)

Sun Oct 28, 2012 8:52 pm

Okay, with Singapore Airlines announcing cancellation of BOTH of the world's longest scheduled flights, it's time for a new and "official" ranking of the ten longest. This topic has been done to death on this site, but this is a substantial change/shake-up.

Below is the list I've got. Can anybody clarify?

Here's the criteria, so there should not be any controversy:

-- Nautical miles (flight times are too fickle) according to the Great Circle Mapper
http://gc.kls2.com

-- nonstop
-- scheduled
-- passenger carrier
-- one-way or round-trip, seasonal or year-round, it doesn't matter
-- New York and Newark (see 7, below, can be counted together)


1. Sydney-Dallas: 7,455 (Qantas)
2. Atlanta–Johannesburg: 7,335 (Delta)
3. Dubai-Los Angeles: 7245 (Emirates)
4. Manila-Toronto: 7145 (Philippine Airlines)
5. Dubai-Houston: 7095 (Emirates)
6. Dubai-San Francisco: 7041 (Emirates)
7. New York–Hong Kong: 7,015 (Cathay Pacific, United)
8. Doha-Houston: 6995 (Qatar Airways)
9. Dubai-Dallas: 6987 (Emirates)
10. New York–Johannesburg: 6925 (South African Airways)


Interesting how three of the top ten are connections between Texas and the Middle East. That's oil for you.

Is the Manila-Toronto thing, supposedly to start next month, a sure thing?

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[Edited 2012-10-28 14:15:48]

[Edited 2012-10-28 14:42:09 by srbmod]
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RE: Longest Routes, Definitively! (Part XXVII)

Sun Oct 28, 2012 9:28 pm

Just nitpicking a little but ATL-JNB is the longest route that is nonstop in both directions. Doesn't affect your ranking based on your guidelines but just wanted to specify that the westbound DFW-SYD makes a scheduled stop in BNE.

Disappointing SQ can't keep up their long routes. Hopefully they'll be back at some point in the future.
 
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RE: Longest Routes, Definitively! (Part XXVII)

Sun Oct 28, 2012 9:52 pm

Quoting aviateur (Thread starter):
Is the Manila-Toronto thing, supposedly to start next month, a sure thing?

Yep. Inaugural flight is on Nov. 30th. It is now bookable in PR's online booking system. Just don't know how long it will last.
 
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RE: Longest Routes, Definitively! (Part XXVII)

Sun Oct 28, 2012 10:59 pm

Quoting PRFlyer (Reply 2):
Yep. Inaugural flight is on Nov. 30th. It is now bookable in PR's online booking system. Just don't know how long it will last.

Yeah, that's what I was thinking. I remember Thai's BKK-JFK route a few years ago. Seemed like a great idea, but it didn't last very long.

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RE: Longest Routes, Definitively! (Part XXVII)

Mon Oct 29, 2012 12:11 am

Quoting aviateur (Thread starter):
1. Sydney-Dallas: 7,455 (Qantas)
2. Atlanta–Johannesburg: 7,335 (Delta)
3. Dubai-Los Angeles: 7245 (Emirates)
4. Manila-Toronto: 7145 (Philippine Airlines)
5. Dubai-Houston: 7095 (Emirates)
6. Dubai-San Francisco: 7041 (Emirates)
7. New York–Hong Kong: 7,015 (Cathay Pacific, United)
8. Doha-Houston: 6995 (Qatar Airways)
9. Dubai-Dallas: 6987 (Emirates)
10. New York–Johannesburg: 6925 (South African Airways)

Since you're including SYD-DFW which only operates in one direction, you should also include DFW-BNE (7215 nm) which also only operates in one direction. I believe it then becomes 4th longest.
 
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RE: Longest Routes, Definitively! (Part XXVII)

Mon Oct 29, 2012 2:01 am

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 4):
Since you're including SYD-DFW which only operates in one direction, you should also include DFW-BNE (7215 nm) which also only operates in one direction. I believe it then becomes 4th longest.

Yeah, that'd be correct, but I hate doing it, seeing that it's technically part of QF's SYD-DFW service. Very annoying!


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RE: Longest Routes, Definitively! (Part XXVII)

Mon Oct 29, 2012 6:31 am

Quoting aviateur (Reply 5):
Yeah, that'd be correct, but I hate doing it, seeing that it's technically part of QF's SYD-DFW service. Very annoying!

Well, if you ask for longest routes, then possibly you could skip the DFW-BNE flight (but then you'd need to include all routes with a stop, like QF SYD-SIN-LHR, etc.)

But, if this list is the longest non-stop flights (which it really is), then there is no way you can decide not to include DFW-BNE, as this is one of the worlds longest non-stop flights.

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