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Flagship Flights

Tue Jan 22, 2013 4:24 am

From my understanding, most airlines use their Flight 1 as their flagship flight. Delta 1 is JFK-LHR And American 1 is JFK-LAX... so why did United change their flight 1 to RDU-SFO? Do they not go by the flagship standard or is that outdated.

One more question i always wondered is why don't airlines do XXX-RDU as flight 919? I mean, that is the area code..  
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RE: Flagship Flights

Tue Jan 22, 2013 5:41 am

Airlines used to have flight 1 as their premier/exotic flight. Of course, UA had to screw it up. Way to go Jeff!

IIRC didn't CO used to run their flight 1 from IAH to LAX to GUM?
 
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RE: Flagship Flights

Tue Jan 22, 2013 5:51 am

Interesting how few changes there've been over the years:

From 2005: Different Airlines' Flight 1? (by Longhornmaniac Dec 18 2005 in Civil Aviation)

From 2004: Airlines' Flight 001 (by TriJetFan1 Jul 5 2004 in Civil Aviation)
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RE: Flagship Flights

Tue Jan 22, 2013 6:20 am

CO long had flt. 1 on IAH-HNL-GUM. Not sure what UA's used to be.
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RE: Flagship Flights

Tue Jan 22, 2013 6:22 am

UA flight 1 and 2 used to be its RTW flights (I believe).
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RE: Flagship Flights

Tue Jan 22, 2013 9:27 am

LH 001 is HAM-FRA, which is highly appropriate for historic reasons.
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RE: Flagship Flights

Tue Jan 22, 2013 9:37 am

QF1 traditionally has been SYD-BKK-LHR, became and is currently SYD-SIN-LHR (following QF dropping BKK-LHR) and will soon be SYD-DXB-LHR.

I suspect that London likely has the highest number of flight number ones serving it. I know MH, NZ, BA (serving LCY) as well as DL as noted above all serve London with their flight number one.
 
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RE: Flagship Flights

Tue Jan 22, 2013 10:13 am

Hi

FWIW, UA 1 will be operating MUC-IAD effective the summer schedule--31MAR13  
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RE: Flagship Flights

Tue Jan 22, 2013 10:43 am

Quoting nickofatlanta (Reply 6):
I suspect that London likely has the highest number of flight number ones serving it. I know MH, NZ, BA (serving LCY) as well as DL as noted above all serve London with their flight number one.

Add EK and QR to that list.

EK001 is DXB-LHR, QR001 is DOH-LHR.

Interestingly, EY001 is AUH-FRA.

Oh, and SQ001 remains SFO-HKG-SIN.
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RE: Flagship Flights

Tue Jan 22, 2013 10:44 am

LO still has it.

LO1 is WAW-ORD, I guess it has to do with being the longest route at the time and important to LO's pax living in the Chicago area, being it the expats from Poland?

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RE: Flagship Flights

Tue Jan 22, 2013 3:48 pm

US 1 is PHX-ORD.....not sure why.
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RE: Flagship Flights

Tue Jan 22, 2013 4:10 pm

PA flight 1 was RTW, starting in New York and headed East bound.
 
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RE: Flagship Flights

Tue Jan 22, 2013 4:16 pm

UA 1 used to be ORD-HNL back in 2006/7
 
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RE: Flagship Flights

Tue Jan 22, 2013 4:41 pm

Air Canada 1 is quite the random: YYZ-NRT.

I would have figured it would be YYZ-LHR or something like YUL-CDG.
 
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RE: Flagship Flights

Tue Jan 22, 2013 4:51 pm

Quoting EASTERN747 (Reply 11):
PA flight 1 was RTW, starting in New York and headed East bound.

And I believe PA flight 2 was RTW in the opposite direction.
 
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RE: Flagship Flights

Tue Jan 22, 2013 7:38 pm

Quoting ytz (Reply 13):
Air Canada 1 is quite the random: YYZ-NRT.

I would have figured it would be YYZ-LHR or something like YUL-CDG.

All AC flights to Europe fall within the 800-899 range.

Plus all AC Eastbound flights are even-numbered.
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RE: Flagship Flights

Tue Jan 22, 2013 8:01 pm

SK 001 is a domestic flight in Sweden, LLA-ARN.
 
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RE: Flagship Flights

Tue Jan 22, 2013 11:40 pm

B6 flight 1 is (not surprisingly) JFK-FLL

AM flight 1 is (also not surprisingly) MEX-MAD

AF flight 1 was the Concorde from JFK-CDG

HA flight 1 is LAX-HNL

AS flight 1 is DCA-SEA

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RE: Flagship Flights

Wed Jan 23, 2013 2:54 am

CX1/2 is a cargo flight
 
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RE: Flagship Flights

Wed Jan 23, 2013 3:14 am

CI 001 was HNL-TPE

I took this particular flight in Jan 2010, and I think China Airlines stopped operating CI 1/2 a few months after.

SQ 001 is SFO-HKG-SIN.

[Edited 2013-01-22 19:24:54]
 
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RE: Flagship Flights

Wed Jan 23, 2013 3:47 am

Quoting ytz (Reply 13):
Air Canada 1 is quite the random: YYZ-NRT.

As with a few of AC's other transpacific flight numbers, they inherited it from CP and didn't change it.

Quoting HOONS90 (Reply 15):
Plus all AC Eastbound flights are even-numbered.

Many airlines, especially those based in North America, have long used use the "eastbound even, westbound odd" flight numbering convention.

DL has a couple of exceptions. When they purchased UA's New York-London rights (but initially had to operate to LGW due to the bilateral before the US-EU Open Skies agreement was implemented in 2008 and permitted them to move to LHR), their inaugural JFK-LGW flight was DL1 as they obviously wanted to use that number for the US-originating flight. When they added a second daily frequency on the route it became DL3.

I think DL1 and DL3 are thus DL's only eastbound flights with odd numbers, and DL2 and DL4 the only westbound flights with even numbers.

Several European carriers use even numbers from their hubs (regardless of direction) and odd numbers to their hubs.
 
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RE: Flagship Flights

Thu Jan 24, 2013 2:41 am

BA flight 1 and 2 used to be the LHR-JFK Concorde service; it has now shifted to the LCY-JFK all business A318 service.
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RE: Flagship Flights

Thu Jan 24, 2013 7:19 am

Quoting dcann40 (Reply 14):
Quoting EASTERN747 (Reply 11):
PA flight 1 was RTW, starting in New York and headed East bound.

And I believe PA flight 2 was RTW in the opposite direction.

NZ 1/2 is round the world in both directions AKL-LAX-LHR-HKG-AKL until they drop the HKG-LHR leg (soon, I think.)
 
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RE: Flagship Flights

Thu Jan 24, 2013 1:11 pm

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 20):
Several European carriers use even numbers from their hubs (regardless of direction) and odd numbers to their hubs.

As do most carriers outside the United States (but with odd away from base, and even back home...)

Quoting aklrno (Reply 22):
NZ 1/2 is round the world in both directions AKL-LAX-LHR-HKG-AKL until they drop the HKG-LHR leg (soon, I think.)

NZ1/2 only apply to AKL-LAX-LHR return.

AKL-HKG-LHR return is NZ35/36.
 
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RE: Flagship Flights

Thu Jan 24, 2013 5:45 pm

Quoting qf002 (Reply 23):
NZ1/2 only apply to AKL-LAX-LHR return.

AKL-HKG-LHR return is NZ35/36.

I must be spending too much time deprived of oxygen. Should have remembered that since I've done the trip several times.
 
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RE: Flagship Flights

Tue Jan 29, 2013 2:57 am

NH 1 is IAD-NRT and NH 2 is NRT-IAD
But I believe the flagship flights used to be NRT-SFO-NRT for historic reasons.
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RE: Flagship Flights

Tue Jan 29, 2013 3:08 am

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 10):
US 1 is PHX-ORD.....not sure why.

My guess: it's because that was the premier route for America West.

Does anyone know what Northwest's Fl #1 was? My guess would be that it was to/from Tokyo from either ORD, DTW or MSP.

[Edited 2013-01-28 19:28:44]
 
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RE: Flagship Flights

Wed Jan 30, 2013 12:27 am

Quoting CoachClass (Reply 26):
Does anyone know what Northwest's Fl #1 was? My guess would be that it was to/from Tokyo from either ORD, DTW or MSP.

NW1 was SEA-Tokyo for many years. In later years (1980s/90s) it switched to LAX-NRT. In earlier propeller days NW1 originated in NYC and had various other stops en route to SEA. It also sometimes continued beyond Tokyo to various Asian destinations.
 
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RE: Flagship Flights

Wed Jan 30, 2013 8:15 am

VA1 is SYD-LAX

VS1 is LHR-EWR (interstingly it is EWR rather than JFK)

JL1 is SFO-HND

NH1 is IAD-NRT

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