9w748capt
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Indonesia Travel Tips (daytrip)

Thu Feb 14, 2013 1:56 am

Hello a.nutters - I'll be in Singapore next week visiting my cousin and it has stricken my fancy to maybe take a daytrip to Indonesia and try out a few new airlines/routes. Thinking something like SIN-CGK on Lion Air, CGK-DPS on Sriwijaya, and back to SIN on KLM. Any thoughts? From what I read, US citizens should be able to get visas on arrival at CGK. Better yet, anyone want to join me?   Cheers!
 
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RE: Indonesia Travel Tips (daytrip)

Thu Feb 14, 2013 3:51 am

US Citizens can use the Visa on Arrival. $10 for a 5 day visa and $25 for a 30 day visa. Paid in cash, several currencies can be used.

I travel to Indonesia 3 times a year. It seems to me that flight delays are a normal occurence. So, I would pad your schedule to prevent mad dashes through airports. Most of my flights are less than 1 hour delay, however a few have stretched to a couple of hours.

Just an FYI, in DPS you have to change terminals. It is an easy walk. However, I had a late flight one evening and we ended up parked quite a distance from the terminal. Had to wait about 20 minutes for the bus to show up, wait on my check bags, and then make the dash to the International Terminal.

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RE: Indonesia Travel Tips (daytrip)

Thu Feb 14, 2013 6:49 am

If you fly into CGK from SIN, you will need to change terminals for domestic flights except Garuda. A bus runs about every 10-20 minutes to the 3 terminals. The bus departs from the departure level from the international Terminal 2. Watch out if you use Lion Air. They have split operations at JKT. Most domestic flights are from Terminal 1, international flights from Terminal 2. However, my last trip through on Lion Air from DPS to PLM via JKT, I found out that Lion Air's flights to DPS arrive/depart from Terminal 3.
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RE: Indonesia Travel Tips (daytrip)

Thu Feb 14, 2013 8:44 am

If you are nostalgic on classics, make an effort to get onto Sriwijaya's 737-200 which are now in the process of being retired from their fleet.
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RE: Indonesia Travel Tips (daytrip)

Thu Feb 14, 2013 12:08 pm

I'd just skip Jakarta and fly SQ to Bali if you want to do that...Lot's of terminal changing involved in your flight.
 
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RE: Indonesia Travel Tips (daytrip)

Thu Feb 14, 2013 3:35 pm

Thanks for all the tips!

Quoting deepunderground (Reply 4):

I'd just skip Jakarta and fly SQ to Bali if you want to do that...Lot's of terminal changing involved in your flight.

Saving actual Bali (not just the airport) for the honeymoon, so don't want to spoil it already - and plus this trip is more just for flying around and not any particular destination!

Quoting neutrino (Reply 3):

If you are nostalgic on classics, make an effort to get onto Sriwijaya's 737-200 which are now in the process of being retired from their fleet.

Exactly what I'm thinking - hopefully they still ply them on CGK-DPS - do you know? Hard to tell from their website.

Also does anyone know is there a "best website" for booking Indonesian plane tickets - the airline sites themselves? PlaneHunter in his TR from last yr reported some trouble booking on Lion Air (http://www.airliners.net/aviation-forums/trip_reports/read.main/211622/)

Thanks guys!
 
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RE: Indonesia Travel Tips (daytrip)

Thu Feb 14, 2013 8:17 pm

If you get the chance on your next trip to Bali (the honeymoon), the international terminal's business class lounge has a nice outdoor patio overlooking the runway. Enjoy it before the new terminal opens!
 
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RE: Indonesia Travel Tips (daytrip)

Fri Feb 15, 2013 5:00 am

Hi 9w748capt,

Quoting 9w748capt (Reply 5):
Exactly what I'm thinking - hopefully they still ply them on CGK-DPS - do you know? Hard to tell from their website.

As far as I know, I don't think they deploy the classics on CGK-DPS route. If you feel like saving Bali this time, I would like to suggest that you may just skip DPS this time, and take a domestic of CGK to JOG/SUB, then connect to DPS. From what I heard, the classics are more likely deployed on those shorter hops rather than DPS.

From SUB, there's an option of getting back to SIN on Valuair, Lion Air, Silk Air, and the fifth-freedom China Airlines (but that requires stay overnight though).

But for late-evening departures to SIN, the options are certainly wider on DPS. Just take note that DPS airport itself is relatively small but packed with tourists, therefore connecting there might take a longer time than expected.

I hope you have an enjoyable flying adventure in Indonesia  

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RE: Indonesia Travel Tips (daytrip)

Fri Feb 15, 2013 8:46 pm

Quoting 9w748capt (Reply 5):
Also does anyone know is there a "best website" for booking Indonesian plane tickets - the airline sites themselves? PlaneHunter in his TR from last yr reported some trouble booking on Lion Air (http://www.airliners.net/aviation-forums/trip_reports/read.main/211622/)

Try this one: http://ticketindonesia.info/en/index.php

Have a great visit to my home country!  
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RE: Indonesia Travel Tips (daytrip)

Sat Feb 16, 2013 6:28 pm

Quoting dirktraveller (Reply 7):
As far as I know, I don't think they deploy the classics on CGK-DPS route. If you feel like saving Bali this time, I would like to suggest that you may just skip DPS this time, and take a domestic of CGK to JOG/SUB, then connect to DPS. From what I heard, the classics are more likely deployed on those shorter hops rather than DPS.

You got me thinking - I've found a CGK-JOG flight on Sriwijaya that might work out, then would have a few hours at JOG before connecting on GA to DPS. Only thing is then I'd only have 2h to connect at CGK from Lion Air. Is that enough? I could take another airline from SIN to CGK but really want to try out Lion Air. Probably cutting it close but I figure if I miss it I'll just buy a ticket on another airline to DPS? Reasonable? Worst case scenario I'll spend the night somewhere new and hopefully have a good time!

Quoting akhmad (Reply 8):
Have a great visit to my home country!

Thank you Suryo - I love your TRs - if I can pull this trip off I'll certainly try to do one!

Quoting akhmad (Reply 8):
Try this one: http://ticketindonesia.info/en/index.php

I'll try that out if the airline websites don't work today  
 
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RE: Indonesia Travel Tips (daytrip)

Sun Feb 17, 2013 9:00 am

Sometimes just "buying another ticket" to/from DPS is pretty difficult. Not a lot of empty planes going in and out of DPS. I missed a domestic flight there once and had to upgrade to business the next day to get out without an additional 7 day wait...(and I was on a full fare ticket)

[Edited 2013-02-17 01:02:07]
 
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RE: Indonesia Travel Tips (daytrip)

Sun Feb 17, 2013 9:27 am

Quoting 9w748capt (Reply 9):
You got me thinking - I've found a CGK-JOG flight on Sriwijaya that might work out, then would have a few hours at JOG before connecting on GA to DPS.

Well, Sriwijaya Air Air is changing their fleet quite often, but best deal is SUB and not JOG:

Daily 11:40 Soekarno-Hatta, Jakarta (CGK) 1 13:00 Surabaya (SUB)
Sriwijaya Air SJ 254 Non-stop Boeing 737-300 (733) 1:20
Daily 20:00 Soekarno-Hatta, Jakarta (CGK) 1 21:20 Surabaya (SUB)
Sriwijaya Air SJ 256 Non-stop Boeing 737-200 (732) 1:20
Fri,Sun 11:15 Soekarno-Hatta, Jakarta (CGK) 1 12:35 Surabaya (SUB)
Sriwijaya Air SJ 258 Non-stop Boeing 737-200 (732) 1:20
Mon-Thu,Sat 11:15 Soekarno-Hatta, Jakarta (CGK) 1 12:35 Surabaya (SUB)
Sriwijaya Air SJ 266 Non-stop Boeing 737-200 (732) 1:20
Daily 05:45 Soekarno-Hatta, Jakarta (CGK) 1 07:10 Surabaya (SUB)
Sriwijaya Air SJ 268 Non-stop Boeing 737-300 (733) 1:25
Non-Direct Flights:
Daily 08:05 Soekarno-Hatta, Jakarta (CGK) 1 10:25 Surabaya (SUB)
Sriwijaya Air SJ 224 1-stop Boeing 737-200 (732) 1:50
Daily 18:15 Soekarno-Hatta, Jakarta (CGK) 1 20:35 Surabaya (SUB)
Sriwijaya Air SJ 234 1-stop Boeing 737-500 (735) 1:50

Daily 12:30 Soekarno-Hatta, Jakarta (CGK) 1 13:30 Yogyakarta (JOG)
Sriwijaya Air SJ 230 Non-stop Boeing 737-300 (733) 1:00
Daily 18:15 Soekarno-Hatta, Jakarta (CGK) 1 19:15 Yogyakarta (JOG)
Sriwijaya Air SJ 234 Non-stop Boeing 737-500 (735) 1:00

I would avoid GA and would try something more "exotic".
 
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RE: Indonesia Travel Tips (daytrip)

Sun Feb 17, 2013 9:56 am

Quoting 9w748capt (Reply 9):
that enough? I could take another airline from SIN to CGK but really want to try out Lion Air.

Just a suggestion, probably you could flew another airline on the SIN-CGK route just for making it to the connecting Sriwijaya Air flight. I knew that Lion Air operates a JOG-DPS route, although i am not sure if the schedule does match with your Sriwijaya Air B732 flight.

Quoting 9w748capt (Reply 9):
Only thing is then I'd only have 2h to connect at CGK from Lion Air. Is that enough?

Based on experience I heard from several of my friends, I would not recommend that. Especially with switching from one terminal and another in CGK.

Anyway, based on debonair's findings, that

Quoting debonair (Reply 11):
but best deal is SUB and not JOG:



Maybe you should consider taking a fifth-freedom or maybe Lion Air SIN-CGK, then use 732 fly nonstop to SUB, and stay the night at SUB (if that's worst case scenario, as you said), and take a Lion Air, or maybe the fifth-freedom carrier CI back to SIN next morning. T

he international flight operations in SUB isn't as busy as DPS and hence I feel that flying internationally would be more convenient out of SUB. That is in case IF you had to really stay overnight.

Quoting debonair (Reply 11):
would avoid GA and would try something more "exotic".

I would agree with this statement   
 
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RE: Indonesia Travel Tips (daytrip)

Sun Feb 17, 2013 4:37 pm

Thanks so much for the responses everyone! Well after looking at everything I had to sacrifice something and that ended up being a flight on a 732   Just with family obligations and whatnot I couldn't spend the night in Indonesia. Plus for me this is already a somewhat "exotic" trip, so I figured why push my luck and try to do something crazy like a stop through SUB or JOG when I was already going to have a good time. So ended up going with Lion Air to CGK, Sriwijaya to DPS, and KL (5th freedom) back to SIN. Figured that was a good mix and kept me at large airports so I should have a larger selection of flights home if something should go awry.

Having said that I do have 5 hours at DPS now so any suggestions are welcome as to how to best kill that time. Seems as though I might need most of it just to make my connection though.

Anyway thanks for all the advice guys! I wish I could have really put it all to good use and gotten a trip on the 732, but as I said already - I'm not quite the globetrotter that some of you are so this is already a hell of a trip by my standards. Maybe next time!
 
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RE: Indonesia Travel Tips (daytrip)

Mon Feb 18, 2013 12:22 am

Keep in mind DPS is building a new airport terminal, next/aside the domestic terminal, so construction work is going on, take a few minutes extra time for you transfer (minor inconvenience that's all)

Maybe nice, Air Fast Indonesia is operating MD82 on CGK-DPS. Might be a nice option.
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RE: Indonesia Travel Tips (daytrip)

Mon Feb 18, 2013 4:18 am

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 14):
Air Fast Indonesia is operating MD82 on CGK-DPS. Might be a nice option.

AFAIK, Air Fast is a charter airline. They don't sell tickets to the public. Their clients are mainly oil and mining companies.
 
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RE: Indonesia Travel Tips (daytrip)

Mon Feb 18, 2013 4:22 pm

Quoting 9w748capt (Reply 9):
You got me thinking - I've found a CGK-JOG flight on Sriwijaya that might work out, then would have a few hours at JOG before connecting on GA to DPS. Only thing is then I'd only have 2h to connect at CGK from Lion Air.

2 Hours would be a little tight. However, if you had no checked luggage, immigration is a breeze if you take the first flight out of SIN on Lion with no delays. But, you are no longer planning that.

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 14):
Keep in mind DPS is building a new airport terminal, next/aside the domestic terminal, so construction work is going on, take a few minutes extra time for you transfer (minor inconvenience that's all)

My last trip through DPS in December,the construction really did not affect the walking time between terminals. However, it was nice that there were no vehicle traffic in front of the international terminal because the traffic was routed elsewhere.

Quoting 9w748capt (Reply 13):
Having said that I do have 5 hours at DPS now so any suggestions are welcome as to how to best kill that time. Seems as though I might need most of it just to make my connection though.

5 hours is a nice buffer. My experience on my domestic to international connections in Indonesia is, the closer the flights are together (2-3 hours) the more likely my domestic flight will be delayed. The more time I have to transfer (3+ hours), the flight is on time. That has just been my luck and my wife reminds me of that everytime I pick a 6PM-7PM departure to Jakarta.

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RE: Indonesia Travel Tips (daytrip)

Tue Feb 19, 2013 8:25 am

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 14):
Keep in mind DPS is building a new airport terminal, next/aside the domestic terminal, so construction work is going on, take a few minutes extra time for you transfer (minor inconvenience that's all)

Maybe nice, Air Fast Indonesia is operating MD82 on CGK-DPS. Might be a nice option.

The construction is having no impact on the existing domestic or international terminals.

And the airfast flight you mention is a private charter for a mining company.

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