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American Or Cactus?

Thu Feb 21, 2013 4:46 pm

Since US Airways Group is the acquiring entity, will the new airline use the AWA Cert or AA Cert and will the call sign for the New American Airlines be CACTUS or AMERICAN ???

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wrldtvlr
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RE: American Or Cactus?

Thu Feb 21, 2013 4:51 pm

Without any insider knowledge, I would be my farm on the new callsign being "AMERICAN", especially with HQ remaining in Dallas.

As for the operating certificate, I can see them keeping the AA cert for "historical" purposes.
 
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RE: American Or Cactus?

Thu Feb 21, 2013 4:59 pm

Quoting wrldtvlr (Reply 1):
Without any insider knowledge, I would be my farm on the new callsign being "AMERICAN", especially with HQ remaining in Dallas.

As for the operating certificate, I can see them keeping the AA cert for "historical" purposes.

I'm sure this will be a hot debate  .

Personally, I can't see "Cactus" winning out over "American" , but while the surviving brand will be AA's - I think going forward the combined management will certainly throw in some nods to HP and US (maybe even TW - retrojet, anyone?) here and there ....

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DesertAir
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RE: American Or Cactus?

Thu Feb 21, 2013 9:23 pm

I vote for American. Cactus was quaint for the funky AW but not for a world class airline.
 
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RE: American Or Cactus?

Mon Feb 25, 2013 6:00 pm

Sounds like this could be a prickly issue! American seems to be the most likely
 
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RE: American Or Cactus?

Mon Feb 25, 2013 9:05 pm

It sometimes amazes me what kind of questions people post here on A.net.

The call sign will obviously, positively, 100%, guaranteed, definitely, ... be AMERICAN.
There is no discussion here. Period.

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RE: American Or Cactus?

Mon Feb 25, 2013 10:20 pm

Somebody posted in another thread that the merged call sign would be FREEDOM, God I hope not.
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RE: American Or Cactus?

Tue Feb 26, 2013 3:31 am

I agree the callsign is almost certain to be "American" for an airline named "American", but "Cactus" would have the advantage of brevity (only 2 syllables instead of 4) considering how congested ATC frequencies at busy airports can be.
 
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RE: American Or Cactus?

Tue Feb 26, 2013 3:56 am

Quoting wrldtvlr (Reply 1):
especially with HQ remaining in Dallas.

Everyone in Fort Worth just gasped....


Like many here, I'd bet on "American" surviving.
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RE: American Or Cactus?

Tue Feb 26, 2013 5:03 am

American, AAL, AA - no America West relics.

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 7):

I agree the callsign is almost certain to be "American" for an airline named "American", but "Cactus" would have the advantage of brevity (only 2 syllables instead of 4) considering how congested ATC frequencies at busy airports can be.

I've heard it pronounced 'Mer'can to shorten it to two syllables.
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RE: American Or Cactus?

Tue Feb 26, 2013 6:58 am

I would like to see this:
IATA: AA
IACO: AWE
Callsign- American Airways  
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RE: American Or Cactus?

Sat Mar 02, 2013 9:29 am

It doesn't have anything to do with HQ or historical anything. It probably should be "American" to avoid confusion vs what is painted plane.

I would like to see AWE as the IATA, but more than that I would like to see the US livery kept, instead of that hideous PMAA rebrand. I would also like to hear that Parker was just telling Texas politicians what they want to hear, and that the HQ will remain in Tempe.

Quoting NWADC9 (Reply 9):
I've heard it pronounced 'Mer'can to shorten it to two syllables.

OK but the ones who pronounce it that way take longer to say it than the ones who pronounce the whole word correctly.
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RE: American Or Cactus?

Sat Mar 02, 2013 11:03 pm

Quoting Beardown91737 (Reply 11):
I would like to see AWE as the IATA,

AWE is the ICAO code. the IATA code is US.
 
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RE: American Or Cactus?

Sun Mar 03, 2013 4:13 am

I too will bet the farm American takes the callsign.

Not only was 'Cactus' synonymous with the America West brand that no longer exists, they are now the largest airline in America and thus "American" is the only callsign they will use. I will cover bets on this one.
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RE: American Or Cactus?

Sun Mar 03, 2013 6:04 am

Being the largest in the US didn't make United or Delta use the "American" call sign. Why would it for this new "American Airlines"?
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RE: American Or Cactus?

Sun Mar 03, 2013 1:29 pm

Um....... Because neither of those mergers previously owned the name American Airlines??
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RE: American Or Cactus?

Tue Mar 05, 2013 7:11 pm

I would hate to see the American call sign disappear. Cactus was unique at the time.
As far as the flying certificate I'm almost 100% it'll be American. Over all American is
the dominate name and recognized. It'll stay.

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