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Sun Mar 17, 2013 12:32 am

Hello all... I did a search but there is only old and very unreliable information about this out there....can you tell me who is right now the biggest operator of Boeing 757's ? And, if you know, for how long this type will be active with each operator ?

( From the dozens of threads here re AA I guess they are among the top, but only for a short time with the arrival of new planes ?? )

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Sun Mar 17, 2013 12:41 am

Currently, the largest operator is DL, with 167 757s in the fleet. AA with 102 757s is actually third, behind UA who has 154 757s in its fleet. Even if the US/AA merger gets approved, AA will still be third with 126 757s.
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Sun Mar 17, 2013 12:42 am

Quoting Gonzalo (Thread starter):
Hello all... I did a search but there is only old and very unreliable information about this out there....can you tell me who is right now the biggest operator of Boeing 757's ?

DL is the largest with around 167
UA comes in second with 154
AA is in 3rd with 102 (AA+US they have a total of 126)

Both DL and UA are starting to replace their fleets with 737-900ERs and AA is replacing theirs with the A321-200. I'm not sure when they plan on phasing out the last 757 but some of them are actually fairly new so there is no real rush.
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Sun Mar 17, 2013 12:42 am

According to airfleets.net DL has the most while AA is 3rd with 102. The active 757 fleet will quickly start shrinking in the next few years since all three of the big airlines have ordered partial replacements for the 757's.

http://www.airfleets.net/exploit/production-b757.htm
 
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Sun Mar 17, 2013 12:46 am

Note that at one point AA was once the largest 757 operator until it unloaded the ex-TWA 757s, most of which were picked up by DL. Then when the DL/NW and UA/CO mergers occurred, AA fell to third largest.
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Sun Mar 17, 2013 12:58 am

1. Delta Airlines 166
2. United Airlines 153
3. American Airlines 103
4. UPS 75
5. FedEx 67
6. US Airways 24
7. DHL 23
8. Icelandair 22
9. Thomson Airways 19
10. Thomas Cook 17
 
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Sun Mar 17, 2013 1:17 am

Quoting mjoelnir (Reply 6):
1. Delta Airlines 166
2. United Airlines 153
3. American Airlines 103
4. UPS 75
5. FedEx 67

So, considering UA/CO and AA/US will be progressively phasing out the 757's, can we expect the biggest operator in the future will be among some of the non-pax operators ( FedEx/UPS/DHL ) ?

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Sun Mar 17, 2013 1:27 am

Now what is interesting is asking ourselves what is or was the largest NON US operator of the type, I think (and I'm even sure) it was BA. At one point, during the 90s, they had over 30 757s (if not as many as 40) some of which were used on Shuttle flights within the UK. 30 sounds like nothing, but it is not nothing if you exclude US operators and compare with operators from the rest of the world.
Not only BA was always the largest non US operator of the type, it was also one of the two launch customers (with Eastern) of the 757.

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Sun Mar 17, 2013 1:40 am

Interesting also is that around 50 airlines are still operating B 757, most apart of the American airlines just a few.
there are still about 860 of 1049 build in use.

If we take away the 5 biggest airlines using the B 757 for passenger traffic, all in the USA, together 446 frames, that still leaves about 415 in use all over the world.

And all 55 B 757-300 build are in use.

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Sun Mar 17, 2013 2:04 am

Why didn't it catch on with Chinese or other Asian carriers? I recall when VARIG had 2, yet it seemed like a perfect ac for South America (to me) vs flying an MD-11 from Manaus to Rio, or Sao Paulo to Chile?
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Sun Mar 17, 2013 2:12 am

Quoting VC10er (Reply 10):
Why didn't it catch on with Chinese or other Asian carriers?

SQ ordered some. But as we discussed in relation to the Chinese in another thread, the Chinese market really didn't open to outsiders until only very recently. When the 757 was in its order book heyday, China was still rather undeveloped economically. Nixon only landed in China in 1972, not really that long ago.
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Sun Mar 17, 2013 2:17 am

Interestingly, DL is also the largest operator of the 767 series as well. They must really like that flight deck,  
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Sun Mar 17, 2013 4:48 am

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 11):
SQ ordered some.

SQ had 4. They were PW powered. At that time (late 80s), SQ was flying mostly the A310 on flights within South East Asia.

Wasn't the very last 757 built delivered to a Chinese airline in 2005?
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Sun Mar 17, 2013 5:14 am

Quoting Darksnowynight (Reply 12):
They must really like that flight deck,

And in the case of the 757, the tendency of the type to climb like a rocket !!!   

I'm surprised by the high number of active frames, I thought ( for whatever reason that I can not explain ) the active 757's around the world were less than a half of the actual number.... This time being wrong is so nice !!    

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Sun Mar 17, 2013 5:37 am

Quoting mjoelnir (Reply 6):
5. FedEx 67

Wow! Seems like just yesterday we had a "first 757 for Fed-ex" pic and at the time they were trying their best to source them. I hadn't realized their fleet had grown so quickly.

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Sun Mar 17, 2013 5:51 am

Quoting Gonzalo (Reply 7):
So, considering UA/CO and AA/US will be progressively phasing out the 757's, can we expect the biggest operator in the future will be among some of the non-pax operators ( FedEx/UPS/DHL ) ?

   For FedEx is gaining 752s while everyone else will be retiring theirs. Who will be the largest all depends on the UPS/FedEx buying schedule.

Quoting United1 (Reply 3):
Both DL and UA are starting to replace their fleets with 737-900ERs and AA is replacing theirs with the A321-200.

Isn't US already the largest operator of the A321? I suspect US/AA will quickly gain that title if US doesn't have it already. Either way, the number of 752s in passenger service will drop quickly over the next 5 years.

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Sun Mar 17, 2013 5:59 am

Quoting lightsaber (Reply 16):

Isn't US already the largest operator of the A321?

US is not only the largest operator of the A321, but also the A319/320. They have the largest airbus fleet in the world.
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Sun Mar 17, 2013 7:18 am

The last ER models will be hard to replace for many airlines. The neo and max still wont come close enough on hot and high, long and thin.

How will these airlines do as there will come a day when the metal is just too old and worn. To abuse a small WB is an expensive way to replace these planes?!
 
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Sun Mar 17, 2013 7:38 am

Quoting sweair (Reply 19):
The last ER models will be hard to replace for many airlines.

What is this ER model which you speak of?
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Sun Mar 17, 2013 8:33 am

We splitt it to series:

752: Delta Airlines (82 active, 5 inactive)
75W: American Airlines (103 active)
75F: UPS Airlines (75 active)
75M: ATI - Air Transport International (1 active, 4 inactive)
753: Delta Airlines (16 active) [only operator]
75T: United Airlines (21 active)
 
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Sun Mar 17, 2013 8:48 am

No idea where you got the idea from that DL is the only 753 operator.
Condor operates 13 frames alone making them a close third.
United is actually the operator with the most 753s. 21 total.
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Sun Mar 17, 2013 9:19 am

So what is the average age of the 757 fleet of AA, UA and DL? They must be getting older than 20 years now I think.

Though at Schiphol, we only see them a few times a day, those take offs are still impressive.
 
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Sun Mar 17, 2013 9:21 am

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 20):

I meant those flying TATL routes, 4100nm range ETOPS certified.
 
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Sun Mar 17, 2013 9:36 am

Quoting ushermittwoch (Reply 22):
No idea where you got the idea from that DL is the only 753 operator.
Condor operates 13 frames alone making them a close third.
United is actually the operator with the most 753s. 21 total.

Condor and United operates 75T (thats the Boeing 757-300 with Winglets), Delta is the only operator of the Boeing 757-300 without Winglets (the 753).
 
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Sun Mar 17, 2013 9:39 am

Quoting SASMD82 (Reply 23):
So what is the average age of the 757 fleet of AA, UA and DL? They must be getting older than 20 years now I think.

American:
75W Ø Age: 17.9

Delta:
752 Ø Age: 21.5
75W Ø Age: 17.3
753 Ø Age: 10.2

United:
75W Ø Age: 17.4
753 Ø Age: 10.6
 
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Sun Mar 17, 2013 9:48 am

Condor flies to the canaries I have seen on flight radar. Must be decent economics with the 753 despite its age? They can cram close to 260 seats on those right?
 
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Sun Mar 17, 2013 9:57 am

Quoting viasa (Reply 25):
Condor and United operates 75T (thats the Boeing 757-300 with Winglets), Delta is the only operator of the Boeing 757-300 without Winglets (the 753).

Gotcha. That is of course correct.
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Sun Mar 17, 2013 11:29 am

Quoting sweair (Reply 27):
Condor flies to the canaries I have seen on flight radar. Must be decent economics with the 753 despite its age? They can cram close to 260 seats on those right?


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Sun Mar 17, 2013 12:27 pm

Quoting VC10er (Reply 10):
Why didn't it catch on with Chinese or other Asian carriers?

Shanghai Airlines received the last ever 757 built, B-2876.

Whilst I've flown a few FM 757s, I've not flown on this one yet. Certainly don't rule out the possibility, however.....

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Sun Mar 17, 2013 5:08 pm

Quoting American 767 (Reply 8):
Now what is interesting is asking ourselves what is or was the largest NON US operator of the type, I think (and I'm even sure) it was BA. At one point, during the 90s, they had over 30 757s

At one point they had 56 in the fleet. I flew them quite often and BA used them v flexibly and I certainly had them on flights ranging from short hops from LHR-MAN to longer ones to Athens and Istanbul. They were also used I believe on the GLA-JFK routes too. Now all that are left are the ORY-EWR flights of OpenSkies.

A full list can be found at:

http://www.planespotters.net/Product...&type=757&fleet=4766&fleetStatus=5

Interesting to see that many of them found their way to DHL and FedEX so hopefully the old girls are still having a happy life on your side of the pond.

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Mon Mar 18, 2013 2:48 am

Quoting VC10er (Reply 10):
Why didn't it catch on with Chinese or other Asian carriers?

Bilateral restrictions in Asia often included frequency restrictions which made widebodies more economic on many routes. And if one carrier operated widebodies, competitors didn't have much choice but to match.

Quoting American 767 (Reply 8):
Now what is interesting is asking ourselves what is or was the largest NON US operator of the type, I think (and I'm even sure) it was BA. At one point, during the 90s, they had over 30 757s (if not as many as 40)

More than 40. BA took delivery of 50 757s from Boeing. I think all were in service simultaneously before they began disposing of them. Most are now freighters.

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