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Last Ever Chance To Fly On A BAC 1-11

Tue Apr 23, 2013 7:15 pm

I am organising a very special day out at Dallas Love Field with several flights on-board Business Jet Access's Beautiful executive 1-11 N999BW.
The 30 minute flights will be taking place on Sunday 20th October 2013 and cost $220 if we can sell it to 120 enthusiasts. (Four flights with 30 pax on each.)
I would be very grateful if you would spread the word please.
If anyone is interested they can contact me or hold off for a few days when it will be officially launched by Classic Jet Tours and Ian Allan Aviation Tours.
For more details please see the news / feature on my 1-11 website.

Best Regards

Peter
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RE: Last Ever Chance To Fly On A BAC 1-11

Tue Apr 23, 2013 8:36 pm

The Classic Jet Tours website indicates no scheduled tours at this time.....

What is the URL of your BAC 111 website?
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RE: Last Ever Chance To Fly On A BAC 1-11

Tue Apr 23, 2013 8:46 pm

Quoting type-rated (Reply 1):
What is the URL of your BAC 111 website?

This one is on his profile page: http://www.bac1-11jet.co.uk/
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RE: Last Ever Chance To Fly On A BAC 1-11

Tue Apr 23, 2013 8:52 pm

The website quotes a price of $400, rather than $220.
 
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RE: Last Ever Chance To Fly On A BAC 1-11

Wed Apr 24, 2013 8:00 am

Quoting bennett123 (Reply 3):
The website quotes a price of $400, rather than $220.

I thought it was $400 for the one-hour flight and $200-ish for the 30-minute one, which was still being negotiated.

If only I could go...
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RE: Last Ever Chance To Fly On A BAC 1-11

Thu May 02, 2013 1:50 pm

I would definitely go.
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RE: Last Ever Chance To Fly On A BAC 1-11

Thu May 02, 2013 5:21 pm

Whoops! Bandwidth issues on the 111 website.
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RE: Last Ever Chance To Fly On A BAC 1-11

Fri May 03, 2013 11:28 am

I will be on it. It was superb last time and I'd love to fly it again.
 
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RE: Last Ever Chance To Fly On A BAC 1-11

Tue May 07, 2013 9:01 pm

The BAC111 is one of my favorite aircraft. Who was the original owner of this particular BAC?
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RE: Last Ever Chance To Fly On A BAC 1-11

Wed May 08, 2013 2:19 pm

Just had a message saying this has been cancelled as the aircraft is effectively not going to fly again? If true, it's very sad.


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RE: Last Ever Chance To Fly On A BAC 1-11

Thu May 09, 2013 11:25 am

Business Jet Access have just announced that their BAC 1-11 N999BW won't now be available for the historic flights in October!

Therefore it is with great regret that I have been forced to cancel the planned 30 minute enthusiast flights due to have taken place at Dallas Love Field on Sunday 20th October.

I can confirm that I am not looking at any alternative dates in the future as it does appear that the aircraft might not actually fly again!

The statement made by the company said that the aircraft has been withdrawn from service for a "long period of time" pending the supply of spare parts which is becoming a major issue for the 1-11.

It therefore sounds like they are about to make the decision to permanently withdraw the aircraft from service although they've not actually confirmed it just yet.

I apologise to those of you that have shown an interest in booking seats on one of these flights. I’m extremely disappointed!

from Peter via email
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RE: Last Ever Chance To Fly On A BAC 1-11

Thu May 09, 2013 10:21 pm

Yes, that is too bad. Opportunities like this don't often come up. But thank you for trying in the first place.

Has the aircraft not flown since the last enthusiast flight a few years ago? I wonder what's wrong with it. Is it DAL based?
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RE: Last Ever Chance To Fly On A BAC 1-11

Tue May 14, 2013 3:15 pm

Quoting type-rated (Reply 11):
Has the aircraft not flown since the last enthusiast flight a few years ago?

Very little, if at all. That's why I was so surprised that these flights were offered, I enquired about the availability of the aircraft for a filming project over a year ago and was told it was grounded due to spares and other costs (fuel). I am 99% sure it hasn't flown since that conversation. The 2011 charter was almost the end of the road. I suspect the Oct 2013 flights were never really discussed with the aircraft owners.

Btw an aircraft that has been stored without flying for more than a certain amount of time (I think six months) requires a mandatory C check which can take a few thousand man hours to complete. This isn't necessarily a factor if you're reactivating a 747-400 for British Airways because it's going to fly 18h a day and gross £400,000 a day in revenue - the cost of the heavy check is recouped within the first few days of service. An old exec jet that isn't profitable and will sit for weeks and months, different story. So the need for a heavy check is a deal breaker here even if everything else was positive.

One more thing - the biggest users of this jet in recent years was Carlos Santana and band, and George W Bush and family. I could smell incense and sulpher during my flight in 2011.
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RE: Last Ever Chance To Fly On A BAC 1-11

Tue May 14, 2013 9:49 pm

N999BW's most recent flight was September 19, 2013 for crew currency. Airframe time is 10162.6 hrs. At the 2011 flight the time was 10132.5, so its flown just 30.1 hrs in the last 2 years. Apparently there's a bit of a disconnect between the aircraft owner and Business Jet Access who manages/operates it as BJA happily quoted the flight and had a signed contract from the tour organizers before realizing the aircraft serviceability status. The aircraft continues to be offered for sale.
 
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RE: Last Ever Chance To Fly On A BAC 1-11

Tue May 14, 2013 10:09 pm

Quoting classicjets (Reply 13):
Apparently there's a bit of a disconnect between the aircraft owner and Business Jet Access who manages/operates it as BJA happily quoted the flight and had a signed contract from the tour organizers before realizing the aircraft serviceability status.

What a shame - pick up the damn phone and dial the owner first!


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RE: Last Ever Chance To Fly On A BAC 1-11

Tue May 14, 2013 11:31 pm

Quoting classicjets (Reply 13):
September 19, 2013

Make that September 19, 2012  

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