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US 754 (PHL-CDG) Emergency Return To PHL

Wed May 08, 2013 12:06 am

I live just outside of Philadelphia and was listening to PHL departure tonight (via the LiveATC app on my iPad). Immediately after departure, US 754 (PHL-CDG), an A330-200, requested to enter holding in order to burn down fuel to their max landing weight for an emergency return.

They're still holding south of the field as of 8:05 EST. I didn't catch the nature of their problem. But based on the calmness of the radio transmissions, it doesn't sound like it's too serious. I'll keep listening and will update as anything else comes up.

[Edited 2013-05-07 17:08:38]
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RE: US 754 (PHL-CDG) Emergency Return To PHL

Wed May 08, 2013 12:33 am

They just landed without incident and were able to taxi clear of the active. Kudos to the flight crew and controllers.
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RE: US 754 (PHL-CDG) Emergency Return To PHL

Wed May 08, 2013 1:14 am

Good thing I picked Sunday to be on this flight, I was considering going over tonight.
 
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RE: US 754 (PHL-CDG) Emergency Return To PHL

Wed May 08, 2013 1:40 am

It was N281AY, a nearly four-year-old A330-200.
 
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RE: US 754 (PHL-CDG) Emergency Return To PHL

Wed May 08, 2013 1:52 am

Looks like they were in the air for about 1 hr 13 min:
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/A.../20130507/2220Z/KPHL/LFPG/tracklog

Not sure why FlightAware doesn't show them diverted.

It will be interesting to see what the issue was. Clearly, it was enough to not attempt the oceanic crossing, but not imperative enough to get on the ground for an overweight landing.

The US site shows they're going to attempt a 10:30pm EDT departure, so they're either going to do a plane swap or fix N281AY and still get it out tonight.
 
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RE: US 754 (PHL-CDG) Emergency Return To PHL

Wed May 08, 2013 1:58 am

It appears that their speed was fluctuating quite a bit (from about 180 to 230 knots), although that could of course be a technical mistake.
 
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RE: US 754 (PHL-CDG) Emergency Return To PHL

Wed May 08, 2013 2:02 am

Quoting CO764 (Reply 5):
It appears that their speed was fluctuating quite a bit (from about 180 to 230 knots),

The fluctuation is very regular. The track shows that they were in a holding pattern for some time. As they enter the turn, the speed would drop and as they go into the straightaways, the speed would increase.

What sort of issue would lead an aircraft like this to not land immediately, but not fly to its destination?

Landing gear issue?
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RE: US 754 (PHL-CDG) Emergency Return To PHL

Wed May 08, 2013 4:32 am

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 6):
What sort of issue would lead an aircraft like this to not land immediately, but not fly to its destination?

Landing gear issue?

The list could be really long:

- Gear/gear door
- Pressurization
- Flaps
- Fuel transfer pumps
- Hydraulics
- Communications
- On board computers
- Any equipment that you must have all of operating (primary + all backups) prior to starting the oceanic passage
- Etc.

Barring any data, the possibilities are so broad that we're just limited to pretty wild guesses.

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