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Flying Classic/Rare Aircraft In 2013

Mon May 13, 2013 5:51 am

Following UK_Dispatcher's wonderful threads in 2011 and 2012, I thought it might be an idea to have a quick catch up on what's going on in the classic and rare aircraft which we may be able fly in 2013.


Il-18: The only remaining passenger services appear to be the domestic Air Koryo journeys. The Daallo Horn of Africa flights have ceased with 737s now operating. The Ops Manager at Daallo did however say these aircraft are still stationed in JIB and can be chartered on request but mentioned something about the aircraft type being banned from certain locales but I couldn't decipher exactly where.

Il-62: Again the only remaining passenger services appear to be domestic Air Koryo journeys. The intl PEK legs ceased in January after the Chinese aviation authorities put a noise ban on the older Russian aircraft operating within Chinese airspace. There was some rumours about the Deta Air frame moving over to Air Trust although it was unclear whether this combi varient had been converted to full freighter or not. It appears that it was partially converted with the 66 seat/33T cargo moving to 24 seat/40T cargo configuration and is currently for sale (http://www.aircraft24.com/en/jet/ilyushin/il-62m--xi113194.htm)

Tu-134: UTair Express still operating quite a number of this type. Also some moved over to Iran as well?

Tu-154: ??

An-24: Again UTair Express still operating a number. I am sure there are a lots of small CIS operators still flying these and of course the Air Koryo example as well.

B707: According to Sam Chui these ceased in mid-April with a simultaneous cessation of all Saha Air services. There are again rumours of Saha Air resuming operations but it is unclear if the 707s will get a repreive.

747SP: Iran Air are still operating these on the PEK and KUL long hauls after their 747-300s from Qantas were embargoed. There also seem to be some scheduled journeys to BOM but unsure if these are operating. What happened to the Syrian frames?

DC10: Biman still?


I hope this thread generates some good ideas, tips and information as similar threads have in the past. Looking forward to your input.
 
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RE: Flying Classic/Rare Aircraft In 2013

Mon May 13, 2013 3:55 pm

Yes, awesome, thank you so much for starting a new thread! It's been a while.
Let me add:

An-24: An easy way to fly on an An-24 is the HAV-GER domestic flight in Cuba (Nueva Gerona, Isla de la Juventud). Very cheap too, $41 if I remember correctly. This flight will soon be operated by their new An 158 equipment, but right now, you can still catch it while you can. An excellent experience I highly enjoyed last year.

Dash 7: Only one place left in the world to fly on a scheduled passenger Dash 7, but it's extremely easy, cheap, no weird visas or dangerous countries, and 0% chance of equipment change: Berjaya Air Singapore to Kuala Lumpur, via TOD (Pulau Tioman). Spend a day or two on this beautiful island or just do the SIN - SZB trip directly with a brief stopover. You'll have to book 2 separate tickets though, and notify the company at check-in, as they don't market the through flight. Make yourself noticed by the pilots as an airline enthusiast, and you'll probably fly in the jump seat.

MD-11: Good luck explaining this to a time traveler from 10 years ago, but the MD-11 definitely belongs in this thread. Only a handful flying for KLM, and every once in a while one goes to the desert, so your last chance has come. YUL seems to be a safe bet. I think it's safe to say KLM will do some sort of enthusiasts' charter in the very end, but if you want to experience them in revenue long haul airline service, you'll have to hurry. I flew AMS-YUL last week and it was one of my most enjoyable flights in many years. Do it now!

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RE: Flying Classic/Rare Aircraft In 2013

Mon May 13, 2013 4:15 pm

B737-200: Europe's last -200 is back! YU-ANP of Aviogenex was ferried from Perpignan to Belgrade after storage (or maintenance?) on May 10. Appearently this aircraft is now operating for JAT again, but sadly the first "scheduled" flights of ANP were changed to 733s on very short notice.
As well, there seem to be 732s operating with certain carriers in Africa, Venezuela and TAM Bolivia also operates a few.
 
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RE: Flying Classic/Rare Aircraft In 2013

Mon May 13, 2013 6:11 pm

Quoting Skyeurope (Reply 2):

Peruvian (P9) in Peru still operate some 732s from LIM to at least CUZ along with some other destinations.

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RE: Flying Classic/Rare Aircraft In 2013

Mon May 13, 2013 8:19 pm

Quoting Birdwatching (Reply 1):
Only one place left in the world to fly on a scheduled passenger Dash 7

What about Air Greenland?  

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RE: Flying Classic/Rare Aircraft In 2013

Mon May 13, 2013 11:20 pm

Quoting SRQKEF (Reply 3):

I believe Avior also still flies 732s to MIA
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RE: Flying Classic/Rare Aircraft In 2013

Mon May 13, 2013 11:33 pm

Quoting Birdwatching (Reply 1):
MD-11: Good luck explaining this to a time traveler from 10 years ago, but the MD-11 definitely belongs in this thread. Only a handful flying for KLM, and every once in a while one goes to the desert, so your last chance has come. YUL seems to be a safe bet. I think it's safe to say KLM will do some sort of enthusiasts' charter in the very end, but if you want to experience them in revenue long haul airline service, you'll have to hurry. I flew AMS-YUL last week and it was one of my most enjoyable flights in many years. Do it now!

Indeed--Thankfully I'm booked for this summer on the second daily seasonal AMS-LAX turn.

Quoting huntsman80 (Thread starter):
747SP: Iran Air are still operating these on the PEK and KUL long hauls after their 747-300s from Qantas were embargoed. There also seem to

Need to get on this... Let's hope they are around for a few more years.
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RE: Flying Classic/Rare Aircraft In 2013

Tue May 14, 2013 1:24 am

Fairchild Swearingen Metroliner

From what I can gather, there are 5 airlines still flying the venerable Metroliner on regularly scheduled, bookable flights:

Sharp Airlines, Australia: http://sharpairlines.com.au//
Brindabella Airlines, Australia: http://www.brindabellaairlines.com.au/
Aerocon, Bolivia: http://www.aerocon.bo/
Bearskin, Canada: http://www.bearskinairlines.com/
Perimiter, Canada: http://www.perimeter.ca/

I'm going to catch a Brindabella Metroliner BNE-CFS in July   


Also, I'm surprised that nobody has mentioned that Convair 580. Air Chathams is still flying this beauty from CHT to AKl, WLG, and CHC! http://www.airchathams.co.nz/

[Edited 2013-05-13 18:27:12]
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RE: Flying Classic/Rare Aircraft In 2013

Tue May 14, 2013 3:52 am

Quoting SRQKEF (Reply 3):
Peruvian (P9) in Peru still operate some 732s from LIM to at least CUZ

Flew one earlier in the year, along with a BAe146-200A.

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RE: Flying Classic/Rare Aircraft In 2013

Tue May 14, 2013 9:20 am

Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 7):
From what I can gather, there are 5 airlines still flying the venerable Metroliner on regularly scheduled, bookable flights:

Also Air Norway/North Flying is flying this type AAL-OSL-Ørland/Fagernes

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RE: Flying Classic/Rare Aircraft In 2013

Tue May 14, 2013 11:23 am

Sky Airlines is still flying the 737-200. I saw a couple when transiting SCL in April.

https://www.skyairline.cl/(S(0chiif55birxn045zca0qo55))/en/flota-ingles.aspx
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RE: Flying Classic/Rare Aircraft In 2013

Tue May 14, 2013 2:43 pm

Quoting Hywel (Reply 4):

Only 3 of them left, and they are now only used for passengers in either charter or ad-hoc flights. All scheduled turboprop flights are now DH2's.

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RE: Flying Classic/Rare Aircraft In 2013

Tue May 14, 2013 3:37 pm

My buddy Olivier has done some in-depth research on the scene in Russia and here is what he sent me the other day.

Il-96: will be used on popular Aeroflot flights to Sochi, even twice a day => easy to do a dayreturn and inexpensive destination (lot of competition); also Aeroflot to Cyprus and Istanbul (bookable through Expedia et al - the only way to earn mileage with a major alliance while flying Russian hardware), can be booked as a through-ticket eg BRU-SVO-IST at a reasonable price and no need to go airside at SVO and hence no need to get visa

Yak-42: Utair seems to be still using a few Yak-42 probably operated by Tulpar on the following routes from VKO : Kurgan (nightstop), Narjan-Mar (daystop possible), Syktyvkar (daystop possible) and Nizhnekamsk (nightstop only). All flights can be easily booked on Utair website. Saravia, Grony Avia and Izhavia are still three surviving small carriers in Russia but ... for how long ? State closed most of the small airlines those last months (KMV, Saransk, Redwings, Dagestan Airlines, ..) and those two carriers could disappear anytime so it would be wise not to book too early in advance. They offer twice daily service to Saratov, Grozny and Izhevsk from DME/VKO. Daystop are possible for less than 200€ on the website of each airline (but couldn't find any for Grozny Avia). Gazpromavia is still offering a VKO-LED-VKO on Friday night and Sunday afternoon starting at 70€ oneway ! This flight can be combined with the oneway on the AN148 of Rossja but the Sukoi doesn't seem to be active on the route

Tu-134: probably a few still flying scheduled around Mirny but impossible to go there

Tu-154: only 3 airlines are still actively using the type : UTAIR but only for special flights, ALROSA but flights to Mirny are extreemly expensive, always full and impossible to book besides they are getting 737... and Gazpromavia which is still using their TU5 on a daily VKO to Makachkala in Dagestan (code MCX). You must spend a night there and price is rather high (350€ return) but the flight seems to stop on 16 June so this could be the LAST SCHEDULED TU5 IN THE WORLD ! Flight is easy to buy on the website of Utair (codeshare with the airline). However, I've noticed that some flights are open only for the next two months. It could be worth checking early May if they have extended the flight.

An-24: still a few of UTair flying from Syktyvskar connecting with the Moscow flight to Uktha for exemple.

Tu-204: since the grounding of Red Wings... nothing possible at the moment

767-200: Utair is using them on daily service to Surgut, Sochi (could be combined with IL96), Tyumen, Ekaterinabug and Mineral Voday. Dayreturn are possible and prices are low
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RE: Flying Classic/Rare Aircraft In 2013

Tue May 14, 2013 4:33 pm

Quoting cedarjet (Reply 12):
Tu-154: only 3 airlines are still actively using the type : UTAIR but only for special flights

Interestingly, UTair seem to have been using the Tu-154 on VKO-LED a fair bit... 11 times in the past 3 weeks, for example:

http://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/ut489/

However, they're all scheduled as Boeing 737s and they're last minute substitutions.

Quoting cedarjet (Reply 12):
Tu-204: since the grounding of Red Wings... nothing possible at the moment

Vladivostok Air still fly Tu-204s, but only to far-Eastern destinations. Sadly, they don't operate SVO-AER on behalf of Aeroflot any more.

Quoting cedarjet (Reply 12):
ALROSA but flights to Mirny are extreemly expensive, always full and impossible to book besides they are getting 737...

Alrosa still fly DME-GDZ once per week and it's scheduled as the Tu-154 up until September. As it's a quiet route (when I flew it, there were less than 10 passengers), they're unlike to substitute it for a 737.
 
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RE: Flying Classic/Rare Aircraft In 2013

Tue May 14, 2013 4:38 pm

Quoting cedarjet (Reply 12):
Tu-134: probably a few still flying scheduled around Mirny but impossible to go there

Oh, and UTair still have the Tu-134 scheduled on the following routes:

DME-PEE
DME-ULY
DME-USK

Prices aren't cheap though!
 
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RE: Flying Classic/Rare Aircraft In 2013

Tue May 14, 2013 4:39 pm

Quoting cedarjet (Reply 12):

There's a cheaper way to get on an Alrosa TU5: On Mondays they operate (Mirniy)-Novosibirsk-Yekaterinburg-Novosibirsk(-Mirniy). OVB-SVX-OVB is available from about 160EUR/oneway. In the past few weeks even TU134s operated that flight!

As well, they operate some flights to the Black Sea, for example to Gelendzhik, in summer.
 
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RE: Flying Classic/Rare Aircraft In 2013

Tue May 14, 2013 5:09 pm

Anyone know about L1011? I would love to fly one of them again...
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RE: Flying Classic/Rare Aircraft In 2013

Tue May 14, 2013 5:29 pm

Quoting Hywel (Reply 14):
Oh, and UTair still have the Tu-134 scheduled on the following routes:

DME-PEE
DME-ULY
DME-USK

Prices aren't cheap though!

Checking the flight schedules on OAG, none of these appear to be TU3 operated? The only UTair (Express) services I have located are VKO-USK (UR381) and SGC-UFA (UR9533).

Interestingly, Kish Air of Iran is however shown as operating TU3s on various domestic journeys - does anyone have any further info on these because as far as I could see they ceased TU3 operations years ago?

For the 747SP, this is showing as operating, as we knew PEK and KUL, but from 16th Jul will also be returning to BOM. This is currently scheduled for the Tuesday out and back with ticket prices around the 265GBP mark one way in Y. KUL by contrast is closer to 480GBP.

If anyone is interesting in joining forces for some of these last opportunities out there I'd be game for a trip out to grab some of the Russian metal (TU3, TU5, Yak-42, AN4 etc.) and also a classic IR 747 run (which if timings work I wouldn't mind combining with the Biman DC-10)!

Still kicking myself for not taking up UK_Dispatcher's offer of the Il-18 trip   and don't want the same feeling again!

[Edited 2013-05-14 10:34:22]
 
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RE: Flying Classic/Rare Aircraft In 2013

Tue May 14, 2013 6:14 pm

Quoting huntsman80 (Reply 17):
Checking the flight schedules on OAG, none of these appear to be TU3 operated? The only UTair (Express) services I have located are VKO-USK (UR381) and SGC-UFA (UR9533).

They show on the UTair website, although not every day is scheduled as a Tu-134 - some days of the week it's an ATR-72, Boeing 737 etc.
 
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RE: Flying Classic/Rare Aircraft In 2013

Tue May 14, 2013 8:45 pm

Quoting a3xx900 (Reply 16):
Anyone know about L1011? I would love to fly one of them again...

Nothing, I am afraid... Have been looking for it since years, as the Tristar left me some fond memories from my childhood.
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RE: Flying Classic/Rare Aircraft In 2013

Wed May 15, 2013 1:16 pm

Quoting DUSint (Reply 19):
Only chance would be if you are a high roller - then maybe Sands Casino Corp. would fetch you up with theirs.

Isn't theirs still grounded in Thailand?
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RE: Flying Classic/Rare Aircraft In 2013

Wed May 15, 2013 3:40 pm

Quoting DUSint (Reply 19):
as the Tristar left me some fond memories from my childhood.

LTU, I guess? Me too. Was able to jumpseat upon landing once.... very vague memories...
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RE: Flying Classic/Rare Aircraft In 2013

Wed May 15, 2013 3:46 pm

Quoting huntsman80 (Thread starter):
B707: According to Sam Chui these ceased in mid-April with a simultaneous cessation of all Saha Air services. There are again rumours of Saha Air resuming operations but it is unclear if the 707s will get a repreive.

Saha is probably long gone, as these a/c are reportedly being re-converted back to tankers. These frames were actually converted to pax config from tankers originally.
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RE: Flying Classic/Rare Aircraft In 2013

Thu May 16, 2013 11:34 am

Managed to get some more clarity on the Il-18 situation within the Horn of Africa. These flights ceased due to a Djiboutian government ban on all passenger Il-18 flights and such are being utilised for freighter only duties at present.

It is possible that one of the Il-18s may be operating domestic services within Somalia with Jubba but I have yet to initiate contact with anyone who can give me any further clarity. Anyone with any additional information would be much appreciated.

I believe this leaves the Air Koryo as the only other passenger Il-18 operated in the world. The Grixona frame was converted to freighter 2010/11 and I am unaware of any other passenger config frames still in airworthy condition.
 
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RE: Flying Classic/Rare Aircraft In 2013

Sun May 19, 2013 3:47 pm

Is anyone still operating a flying boat (not a floatplane), such as a Grumman Mallard, and taking passengers? I've found the website of a tour operator in Vanuatu, but that's a little bit out of the way if I'm honest.

Apart from that, is it possible to book Sun Air of Scandinavia (Dornier 328JET) without having to pay an arm and a leg? I've seen outlandish prices such as €474 for MAN-GOT - one way - and that's not even worth dreaming about.
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RE: Flying Classic/Rare Aircraft In 2013

Sun May 19, 2013 6:45 pm

Thank you very much Huntsman for starting this thread again.

Quoting aloges (Reply 24):
Apart from that, is it possible to book Sun Air of Scandinavia (Dornier 328JET) without having to pay an arm and a leg? I've seen outlandish prices such as €474 for MAN-GOT - one way - and that's not even worth dreaming about.

These flights are quite expensive. The best way is probably collecting some Executive Club Miles/Avios and redeem them on Sunair.
 
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RE: Flying Classic/Rare Aircraft In 2013

Sun May 19, 2013 9:31 pm

One aircraft very little is talked about is the IL-114.
Are they still active ?
I suspect Uzbekistan Airways is my best bet ...
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RE: Flying Classic/Rare Aircraft In 2013

Sun May 19, 2013 9:41 pm

Quoting Il62Mdakar (Reply 25):
Quoting aloges (Reply 24):
Apart from that, is it possible to book Sun Air of Scandinavia (Dornier 328JET) without having to pay an arm and a leg? I've seen outlandish prices such as €474 for MAN-GOT - one way - and that's not even worth dreaming about.

These flights are quite expensive. The best way is probably collecting some Executive Club Miles/Avios and redeem them on Sunair.

Nice to see others being interested in this type!! I am also not willing to pay those rather high fares (esp. one-way). The cheapest I came up with were some flights on the BLL-MUC route - that was around 404,- €. Still to much for fun!
On a side note: I got the Do 328 prop version on Cirrus (sadly they ceased ops) a few years ago and that was real fun! This little thing goes down the runway like on a catapult.

Quoting a3xx900 (Reply 21):
Quoting DUSint (Reply 19):
as the Tristar left me some fond memories from my childhood.

LTU, I guess? Me too. Was able to jumpseat upon landing once.... very vague memories...

Correct! Some flights to the Canaries in the late 80s and early 90s.


Like in another thread in Civil Aviation, I would like to remember the Aviogenex B732 operating for two months around Europe on behalf of JAT.
 
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RE: Flying Classic/Rare Aircraft In 2013

Mon May 20, 2013 9:21 am

Quoting DUSint (Reply 27):
Nice to see others being interested in this type!

I have been for some time, alas the fares have always been extremely high - never less than, say, three times what a non-direct flight costs or what a competitor charges. Combined with the complete lack of Avios in my BA EC account, this means that my interest will have to remain mere interest... oh well, can't fly them all.   
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RE: Flying Classic/Rare Aircraft In 2013

Mon May 20, 2013 4:18 pm

Yak-40:

Just saw this in the CH-Aviation newsletter...

"Ukraine's Motor Sich Airlines to reintroduce Yak 40 flights

20MAY2013

Motor Sich Airlines (M9, Zaporozhye (OZH)) are set to begin Kiev Zhulyany (IEV) to Krivoj Rog Lozovatka (KWG) flights using their fleet of two Yak-40s, marking the Russian aircraft type's first return to active scheduled service in Ukraine after most, if not all, of its previous civilian operators moved to retire it for economic reasons. The three times weekly flights will début from May 20. Motor Sich Airlines is a division of the aero engine manufacturer Motor Sich based in Zaporozhye, Ukraine, who are renowned for making the famous D-18T turbofan which powers variants of the Antonov An-124 and An-225 freighters."
 
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RE: Flying Classic/Rare Aircraft In 2013

Mon May 20, 2013 5:53 pm

Quoting HAM (Reply 29):
Ukraine's Motor Sich Airlines to reintroduce Yak 40 flights

Pretty cheap as well 45GBP one way or 80GBP return.

Unfortunately an out and back from Kiev is not possible in a single day. There are however three options: 1. Wait two days for the return, 2. Catch the UTAir flight to VKO, 3. Catch the overnight sleeper train back to Kiev (10-35GBP).

Looks not too bad - is there any other old Russian metal still operational in Ukraine?
 
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RE: Flying Classic/Rare Aircraft In 2013

Mon May 20, 2013 6:20 pm

Quoting aloges (Reply 24):
Is anyone still operating a flying boat (not a floatplane), such as a Grumman Mallard, and taking passengers? I've found the website of a tour operator in Vanuatu, but that's a little bit out of the way if I'm honest.

A LEY based PBY-5A Catalina is once again bookable for classic fans, it includes a touch and go on the water. Highly recommendable!

http://www.catalina-pby.nl/
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RE: Flying Classic/Rare Aircraft In 2013

Mon May 20, 2013 6:38 pm

Quoting HAM (Reply 29):
Ukraine's Motor Sich Airlines to reintroduce Yak 40 flights

Great ! The YAK-40 is still missing in my "portfolio".
Just checked Motorsich´s website and it´s true the promo fare is availlable for 927 UAH all-in return equal to about 92,-€

I need to check what other flights are availlable into/out of Krivoy Rog or at least near by (if everything fails I may take a night train ...)

Maybe I can tick off my to-do list the AN-140 as well this time ...

[Edited 2013-05-20 11:39:13]
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Mon May 20, 2013 8:56 pm

Quoting CrimsonNL (Reply 31):
A LEY based PBY-5A Catalina is once again bookable for classic fans, it includes a touch and go on the water. Highly recommendable!

I may have to quote George Takei just this once: Oh my!

Thank you very much indeed!
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RE: Flying Classic/Rare Aircraft In 2013

Tue May 21, 2013 12:10 pm

Quoting aloges (Reply 24):
Apart from that, is it possible to book Sun Air of Scandinavia (Dornier 328JET) without having to pay an arm and a leg? I've seen outlandish prices such as €474 for MAN-GOT - one way - and that's not even worth dreaming about.

You may want to check Finnair as AY is codesharing on AAR-OSL/GOT/BMA

I scored the FRJ on an AAR-GOT-HEL-TLL/TLL-HEL-ARN AY itinerary which cost me a very reasonable 133EUR, although this was admitedly a youth fare AY is offering some pretty good "BASIC" fares as well.

For example AAR-XXX-HEL-TLL-HEL-GERMANY is currently to be had for 1105DKK, or about 150EUR when booking in advance, even less when not adding TLL. However it's propably cheaper to fly to TLL as hotel prices in Estonia tend to be "slightly" cheaper then in Finland  

Highly recommended trip! We were 4 passengers on AAR-GOT, took off like a rocket and got served so much food one could barely finish the meal during the flight...
 
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RE: Flying Classic/Rare Aircraft In 2013

Tue May 21, 2013 4:41 pm

Great this topic is back.... Thanks for opening a new version.

Quoting MHG (Reply 26):
One aircraft very little is talked about is the IL-114.
Are they still active ?
I suspect Uzbekistan Airways is my best bet ...

Best and only bet. Also missing from my list and if a type is only operated by a single airline one should act fast. Though I heard the Il-114 is actually produced in Tashkent, hence there is some pressure on Uzbekistan to operate the type. And they recently purchased an Il-114 simulator, showing continued committment to the type. Also the most recent delivery is only a few months ago, I have postponed a trip into 2014 for this reason.

Regarding the other Russian types - I just came back from a 1 week Russia trip - which unfortunately was very unsuccessful in regards to new types. Nevertheless I observed the following:

DME:
+ Alrosa still flies the Tu-154M there, saw three airframes at the same time
+ Multiple Yak-42 services per day from Saravia
+ S7 A310-300 still sitting on the ramp
+ Transaero Tu-214 is back in service (only and last operator!)
+ Transaero 747-300 and 747-300(SR) looked active and are currently uploaded into the schedules

SVO
+ SSJ-95 and Il-96 are the only highlights. GOJ is the safest roundtrip in terms of SSJ, I got two different regs on a roundtrip
+ 2x Tu-204-300 operate from SVO for SU to the far east. The other four airframes are based in KHV and VVO. One aircraft is rotated per week between the far east and SVO for maintenance.

LED:
+ My An-148 ended up being an A319, same for my friend Bernd
+ LED is the FV An-148 base though, saw 4 airframes parked there

VVO:
+ Flew the Tu-204-300 to KHV and return, got three regs on three flights. Be aware the Tu-204-300 will likely be retired by the end of the summer schedule due to the SU merger, the last option will then be Air Koryo with a single airframe

KHV:
+ There was a Yak-40 service, didnt check the details though
+ Multiple An-24 services
+ An-26-100 also operate from there, though when we were about to give it a try it was an An-24
+ Vostok operates the super rare An-38, though when we were there the aircraft was AOG   
+ Yakutia operates the SSJ and An-140, though all An-140 flights were subbed with An-24s when we were there

UUS:
+ SAT's 737-200 are still active but due for replacement I heard
+ SAT operates the rare DHC-8-200
+ Mutliple An-24 departures while I was there

Some other info I can share:
+ F-27: Last scheduled pax version in the world with TAM Bolivia. I was there a month ago and nailed it on 5 flights. Apparently LADE in Argentine still has it occasionally on some flights, though unscheduled.
+ 727-200: Also TAM Bolivia, one of the last with the Iran Aseman 727s.
+ 737-200: Also with TAM Bolivia. Just got introduced so they will remain for a while
+ Mil Mi-8: Scheduled pax flights from Varadero to Trinidad on AeroGaviota. Highly recommended and great fun
+ An-26B: Scheduled flights from Havana to Cayo Largo, got two regs on a daytrip.
+ An-140: In the Ukraine currently only uploaded into a city in the western Ukraine, only during the weekdays and requires an overnight stop. On the good side with Motor Sich there can be a pax An-74 equipment change, happened to a friend of mine in March!

Regards,
Loran

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RE: Flying Classic/Rare Aircraft In 2013

Tue May 21, 2013 7:39 pm

Quoting dba4u (Reply 34):
You may want to check Finnair as AY is codesharing on AAR-OSL/GOT/BMA

Thank you very, very much! This is indeed a cunning plan to bypass the high fares - I just played around a bit with the AY booking system and came up with at least nearly the fares you described (not that I didn't believe you - I was just curious).
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RE: Flying Classic/Rare Aircraft In 2013

Tue May 28, 2013 8:46 pm

I flew on one of Air North's HS-748 Series 2A aircraft this weekend on YXY-YDA (it is in a combi configuration, with cargo up front and 40 seats in the rear). Per the FAs, finding spares/parts for the type is becoming quite difficult, the fleet has had a lot of maintenance issues, and Air North is looking at retiring the type this year. Aside from Air North, I believe Air Inuit is the only other commercial passenger/combi operator of the type, with 2 airframes. Pretty rare aircraft.

Can highly recommend Whitehorse and the area around Dawson City as cool places to visit. Between Marsh Lake, the hot springs near Whitehorse, the Yukon Transportation Museum (sporting the world's largest weather vane - a former Canadian Pacific DC-3 mounted on a pylon in front of the museum), nearby Atlin and Skagway, the Dempster Highway (and Tombstone Territorial Park), Top of the World Highway, and historic Dawson City itself, there's plenty to see and do up there.

25K UA miles can get you as far as YXY on AC.

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RE: Flying Classic/Rare Aircraft In 2013

Wed May 29, 2013 9:08 am

You can hop on a Citation from DUS to LUX; there's a small German carrier called Hahn Air that sells tickets for this route - at €270 a pop, as far as I can see.
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RE: Flying Classic/Rare Aircraft In 2013

Thu May 30, 2013 10:26 am

Fil Asian Airlines in the Philippines is getting ready to launch YS-11 operations. On their Facebook site, it says that a batch of pilots have recently undergone pilot training for the YS-11... Now that would be something!
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RE: Flying Classic/Rare Aircraft In 2013

Thu May 30, 2013 1:29 pm

Quoting aloges (Reply 38):
You can hop on a Citation from DUS to LUX; there's a small German carrier called Hahn Air that sells tickets for this route - at €270 a pop, as far as I can see.

I think I remember reading a trip report about a while ago about this flight. Just found it and is bookable through Amadeus, with Cessna Citation showing as the aircraft type. I'd love to do this but I can't justify £240 for a 45 minute flight!
 
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RE: Flying Classic/Rare Aircraft In 2013

Thu May 30, 2013 7:21 pm

Quoting airevents (Reply 39):
Fil Asian Airlines in the Philippines is getting ready to launch YS-11 operations. On their Facebook site, it says that a batch of pilots have recently undergone pilot training for the YS-11... Now that would be something!

It´s still very unclear whether this venture will get off the ground eventually ...
In the Philippines there are a lot of would-be entrepreneurs ...
In this particular case the owner has an aviation business already in Cebu but no permit to operate scheduled ops. And because CAAP (civil aviation authority) is under very close watch by FAA and EASA/EU they´re not easy to grant a new permission at this time.
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RE: Flying Classic/Rare Aircraft In 2013

Fri May 31, 2013 3:35 am

Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 7):
From what I can gather, there are 5 airlines still flying the venerable Metroliner on regularly scheduled, bookable flights:
Quoting airevents (Reply 39):
Fil Asian Airlines in the Philippines is getting ready to launch YS-11 operations. On their Facebook site, it says that a batch of pilots have recently undergone pilot training for the YS-11... Now that would be something!

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RE: Flying Classic/Rare Aircraft In 2013

Sun Jun 02, 2013 3:18 pm

Some types not mentioned so far:
DC-3; final passenger scheduled flight with Buffalo Airways; Yellowknife-Hay River. About 15 more are flying worldwide on enthousiast/sightseeing flights. Sometimes membership required. In the Netherlands, Australia, Denmark, Norway, Finland, Sweden, Switzerland, USA and South Africa. Not in the UK or Germany at the moment afaik.
DC-4; enthousiast flights are being done in South Africa
DC-9; Delta still has a few -50s. One -10 might still fly domestically in Kenya with flysax, formerly Eastern African Safari express. A few 30s and 50s survive in Venezuela (Aeropostal and Aserca) but quite hard to get on one.
L-1049 Super Constellation; enthousiast/member flights from Basel
C-212; civil flights in Kiribati, Bolivia and the outer islands of Indonesia
F-28 Fellowship ; LADE of Argentina flies the short -1000s. Biman and Myanma recently withdrew theirs. One or two might also still fly elsewhere in Africa
GAF Nomad; sightseeing flights in New Zealand
Trislander; Aurigny on the Channel Islands and Great Barrier AL in Auckland New Zealand fly scheduled. Other airlines in Puerto Rico, Venezuela and such but not heared them flying lately.
BAe-ATP; NextJet and Sverigeflyg in Sweden are the last airlines flying pax, but multiple options from both Arlanda and Bromma for short affordable trips.
Shorts 360; Tiara Air between Aruba-Curucao is the easiest option nowadays. Also flying pax around Guam (Freedom Air), Israel (Ayit Aviation) and Air Seychelles.

Some types still flying but seems to be out of reach for ordinary people:
Nord 262; one might still fly in Congo with Malu Aviation
BAC 1-11; the last VIP 1-11 seems wfu by now. Only two testbeds in the USA still operating
DC-6; Flying Bulls in Austria fly a VIP one but not bookable
DC-8 ; ATI just donated the combi DC-8-62 they used for last years enthousiast flight to a museum in Hawaii. They might not be able to schedule another pax charter anymore
G-159/G-1 some VIP aircraft exist, not in pax airline service
Il-86; all pax aircraft are now wfu, only 3 military are still operational
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RE: Flying Classic/Rare Aircraft In 2013

Mon Jun 03, 2013 7:22 am

Another one bites the dust....

Quoting chaviation:


Venezuela's INAC to ban all DC9, 737-200, 727 ops from November

Aeropostal along with Aserca Airlines, Avior Airlines, Estelar Latinoamerica, Laser and Conviasa have all announced plans to replace their ageing DC9s, B737-200s and 727s in line with a NOTAM issued by Venezuela’s National Institute of Civil Aviation (Instituto Nacional de Aeronáutica Civil - INAC) that will prohibit operations of those aircraft types in the country from November 1, 2013. ch-aviation can exclusively reveal the following fleet upgrades that currently underway: Aeropostal will replace its two remaining DC-9-50s with three ex-Alitalia MD-82s. Aserca will replace its last four DC-9-30s with four ex-AeroMéxico (AM, México City Benito Juárez International (MEX)) MD-83s and MD-87s. Avior is in the process of adding three B737-400s and six Fokker 50s to its fleet to replace its fleet of seven B737-200 Adv.s. Estelar Latinoamerica has added a first ex-Seagle Air (SJ, Bratislava Milan Rastislav Stefánik (BTS)) B737-300, N773KR (msn 23773), as a first step towards replacing its four B737-200Advs. Laser plans to add more ex-American Airlines (AA, Dallas Fort Worth International (DFW)) MD-82s to replace its three DC-9-30s. State owned carrier, Conviasa, has taken delivery of three brand new EMB-190s, though it continues to operate two B737-200Advs. However, as of this writing, no information regarding either the future of RAVSA Venezolana and Rutaca Airlines and their respective fleets of B737-200Adv. or that of Vensecar Internacional and its fleet of four 727Fs operating for DHL, is known.

 
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RE: Flying Classic/Rare Aircraft In 2013

Mon Jun 03, 2013 9:57 am

Not operating scheduled flights but there are two (?) DC3s still flying here in New Zealand. I was on a war time era painted Royal New Zealand Air Force DC3 charter flight last year at the RNZAFs 75th celebrations. Both are currently based at museums IIRC but can be chartered.
 
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RE: Flying Classic/Rare Aircraft In 2013

Mon Jun 03, 2013 10:43 am

Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 7):
Also, I'm surprised that nobody has mentioned that Convair 580. Air Chathams is still flying this beauty from CHT to AKl, WLG, and CHC!

Oh, how I'd love to do that! Spend over an entire day, or maybe even two, flying to the other and of the world to do nothing but try a rare passenger aircraft...   

I hope this is a place where I can say that without being looked at funny...   
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RE: Flying Classic/Rare Aircraft In 2013

Mon Jun 03, 2013 12:39 pm

Quoting huntsman80 (Reply 44):
Another one bites the dust....

Worth a trip back to Venezuela before the end of the year to fly on whichever old bangers I can get??....hmmm tempting - lol but It might mean I clock 120000 miles of leisure travel chasing aeroplanes for 2013.
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RE: Flying Classic/Rare Aircraft In 2013

Mon Jun 03, 2013 1:58 pm

Quoting aloges (Reply 46):
I hope this is a place where I can say that without being looked at funny...

 

The GREAT thing about our - well - off-the-beaten-track-hobby is that you learn a lot of new interesting things as side effects... Went to Belgrade yesterday just to try this Aviogenex B732adv and had six hours to spend in the city. And I liked it quite a lot! Wouldn't really have considered a weekend there before - but now I am happy that I did a visit!
 
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RE: Flying Classic/Rare Aircraft In 2013

Tue Jun 04, 2013 2:57 am

So DUSint, did you get the Aviogenex? Fantastic little airplane!
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