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The Future Of Bag Tags?

Mon Aug 12, 2013 11:13 pm

Sticky Luggage Tags Get a 21st Century Digital Upgrade

Is this the end of sticky luggage labels on flights? British Airways ditches them in favour of reusable electronic tags.



The tag uses Near Field Communication technology (NFC), which is getting commonplace with smartphones, in tandem with the BA smartphone app (You check in via the app and wave the phone over the tag and the destination and bar code are sent to the tag.).

Some airlines and airports have been testing bag tags that use RFID technology, but the technology has not seen widespread use nor have any standards for such tags been laid out and only a few airports have rolled out systems. Others have developed more durable RFID bag tags (Like Qantas' Q Bag Tag.), but the use is not widespread, and one has to purchase the tag (which are aimed towards members of an airlines' FFP).

It wasn't too many years ago that airlines were still using the old cardboard tags that attached with a piece of elastic string.
 
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RE: The Future Of Bag Tags?

Tue Aug 13, 2013 3:34 am

Quoting srbmod (Thread starter):
Others have developed more durable RFID bag tags (Like Qantas' Q Bag Tag.), but the use is not widespread, and one has to purchase the tag

QF tags are provided free to all status FFs. It's interesting to see the difference between QF and BA. BA's is probably more "useful" as it still contains a traditional bar code, so can be used on all flights, whereas QF's is restricted to domestic flights. The QF ones don't have any information displayed on them at all, and are fully digitalised, so are probably more "cutting edge", but less practical.
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RE: The Future Of Bag Tags?

Tue Aug 13, 2013 10:27 am

Actually it seems like a good idea. You only need the bag to be identified with you (your own personal barcode) and the airline systems can match that to your flight bookings. The computers can track you and your bags.

The day the computers go down is the problem.

That BA tag looks pretty smart. I also appreciate no visible name or destination.
and with that..cabin crew, seats for landing please.
 
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RE: The Future Of Bag Tags?

Tue Aug 13, 2013 8:12 pm

Quoting babybus (Reply 2):
That BA tag looks pretty smart. I also appreciate no visible name or destination.

The destination is clearly visible in the image above: JFK....

Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 1):

I'm guessing they're domestic-only due to RFID not being widely used around the world at other airports. I believe the only airport in the US that has an RFID baggage system throughout their airport is LAS. With LAS being primarily an O&D airport (Southwest does have a sizable operation there, but like most major WN stations, it's primarily O&D traffic.), rolling out an RFID system is more feasible.

My own concerns with the bag tag BA is testing is durability. Checked bags take a lot of abuse and personal bag tags and bag locks get scuffed up pretty easily depending on the material used on them. Plus the strap that holds a personal bag tag can sometimes be broken and the tag lost. Looking at the tag BA is testing, the strap that attaches it to the bag is something made out of material similar to luggage straps, which are pretty durable. Now how much abuse can the tag itself take?

If this works, perhaps we'll see such tags integrated into luggage.
 
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RE: The Future Of Bag Tags?

Wed Aug 14, 2013 3:20 am

I love seeing where the final destnations of bags are... this makes me sad  
 
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Wed Aug 14, 2013 8:42 am

Its a great idea. BA should start to roll them out for FF Status passengers. Gold tag for Gold , Silver tag for Silvers etc.... It could replace the current name tags. After that I can see in the future a fee for the tag which would be paid at time of booking , this would encourage people to re use them each time.
 
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Wed Aug 14, 2013 11:09 am

Quoting 260 (Reply 5):
Its a great idea. BA should start to roll them out for FF Status passengers. Gold tag for Gold , Silver tag for Silvers etc.... It could replace the current name tags. After that I can see in the future a fee for the tag which would be paid at time of booking , this would encourage people to re use them each time.

Yeah, another ways for BA to generate every singke cents from the passangers (after charging business class passangers for selecting the seat in advance)

If i need to pay for the tag, i will definitly not using it.
The tag bring no benfit to the passangers, but tjhe airline.
Why i need to pay for it while the traditional one can do their job prefectly?
 
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RE: The Future Of Bag Tags?

Wed Aug 14, 2013 11:59 am

Quoting davidho1985 (Reply 6):
If i need to pay for the tag, i will definitly not using it.
The tag bring no benfit to the passangers, but tjhe airline.

Well the tag would be more durable and cut down on the amount of waste. How many people recycle their tags after a flight? Probably not many. To be honest this may become standard amongst many airlines in future so we may not have a choice !
 
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RE: The Future Of Bag Tags?

Wed Aug 14, 2013 7:07 pm

Quoting ORDTLV2414 (Reply 4):

I love seeing where the final destnations of bags are... this makes me sad  

As I noted earlier:

Quoting srbmod (Reply 3):
The destination is clearly visible in the image above: JFK....

Bag tags will continue to have the final destination on them, even with this new technology.

Quoting OA260 (Reply 5):
Its a great idea. BA should start to roll them out for FF Status passengers. Gold tag for Gold , Silver tag for Silvers etc.... It could replace the current name tags. After that I can see in the future a fee for the tag which would be paid at time of booking , this would encourage people to re use them each time.


This is not the same thing as a personal bag tag that you put on your luggage; this is a new type of bag tag for checked bags.
 
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RE: The Future Of Bag Tags?

Wed Aug 14, 2013 8:43 pm

Quoting srbmod (Reply 8):
This is not the same thing as a personal bag tag that you put on your luggage; this is a new type of bag tag for checked bags.

I know that but to save issuing two tags it could be made into an all in one smart tag. So rather than have a traditional FF tag which one puts on checked luggage you could have just one. Non FF members could have a plain basic one just for checking bags.
 
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Wed Aug 14, 2013 10:07 pm

Quoting srbmod (Reply 3):
The destination is clearly visible in the image above: JFK....

So it is. But it really doesn't have to be. The barcode could be my personal details and those details could be linked to my computer booking.

At places like LHR the bag tag is read and the bag pushed into the correct luggage bin.

The system would have to be supplemented by traditional methods for flights to/from third world countries.
and with that..cabin crew, seats for landing please.
 
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RE: The Future Of Bag Tags?

Thu Aug 15, 2013 11:08 am

It looks much more promising then the home printed tags Iberia introduced recently..

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RE: The Future Of Bag Tags?

Thu Aug 15, 2013 5:15 pm

Quoting CrimsonNL (Reply 11):
It looks much more promising then the home printed tags Iberia introduced recently..

Someday Ryanair will introduce home printed tags and sell authorized scales, printers and stationary plus a hefty fine if the weight measured at home is not within specified variance when checked at counter.
 
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RE: The Future Of Bag Tags?

Fri Aug 16, 2013 12:15 am

Quoting srbmod (Reply 3):
I'm guessing they're domestic-only due to RFID not being widely used around the world at other airports

That and no interlining with other carriers. It's much easier for QF to manage this way, although I imagine that it will expand internationally eventually.

Quoting OA260 (Reply 5):
BA should start to roll them out for FF Status passengers. Gold tag for Gold , Silver tag for Silvers etc.... It could replace the current name tags. After that I can see in the future a fee for the tag

That's precisely what QF do. Admittedly I'm not sure that any non-status passenger have every actually paid for one, but status FFs receive two colour-coded tags (silver, gold etc) which doubles both as their FF tag and bag tag, (which means that you keep your RFID tag on your case when flying internationally as well)

Quoting srbmod (Reply 8):
This is not the same thing as a personal bag tag that you put on your luggage; this is a new type of bag tag for checked bags.

But it could be very easily, in fact I think most airline will follow the QF approach of making them the same thing.
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