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Seat 6B In Business On United's 777?

Sun Jan 12, 2014 2:38 pm

I'm flying IAD-PEK in August on United's 777 in business class. I was kind of shocked to see the 2-4-2 configuration they have on the 777. Kind of like economy class... I really wanted to get a window seat, but with the way those seats look on photos, I can't get out of the window seat without asking the person in the aisle to get up. I don't want to be stuck in the window seat for 14 hours.

Anyway, I've noticed that seat 6B shows as unavailable on United's seat map (it couldn't have been reserved by another passenger as I booked this flight on miles, literally hours after it went on sale). When I pull up the itinerary on Lufthansa's site, the seat is missing altogether.
Does this mean they don't fill this seat with a passenger? Maybe crew rest? Can I safely select 6A and hava an empty seat next to me, or what will happen?

Any other suggestions for selecting my seat?



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RE: Seat 6B In Business On United's 777?

Sun Jan 12, 2014 4:05 pm

I don't think it's for crew rest purposes because usually pilot rest on sUA long-haul 777 routes is seat 2A in F, and the cabin crew have either a crew rest compartment (generally on longer TPAC flights) or the last 2 centre rows of Y curtained off in the first Y cabin which have greater pitch and leg rests on shorter flights (TATL generally)

My best guess is that it's a bassinet position blocked for assignment on the day of departure

FWIW, the rear-facing seats are often preferred for sleeping because the angle of the cabin floor in cruise can result in one's head being lower than one's feet in full bed mode in the forward-facing seats - generally a weird sensation.

7B and 7J are probably the prime seats in that config IMHO - although it's not a disaster to be assigned at the window, as there's a 'small' gap between the fully reclined leg rests in bed mode to use for foot placement and pivot to get out (although you have to be quite a gymnast/ballet dancer not to knock the aisle seat slightly on your way out!)

Row 8 is also a good option - but don't go near 10A and 10J because you end up staring at, or being stared at by, the Y pax in first few rows of Y (only a flimsy net separates the cabins - no curtain) which can be quite off-putting as they gaze enviously at your linens, glassware and cutlery, as they get thrown morsels in plastic containers...  
 
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RE: Seat 6B In Business On United's 777?

Sun Jan 12, 2014 4:20 pm

If the person in the aisle is reclined, and you are fairly nimble, you can step over your neighbor fairly easily.

But keep in mind that you may jostle the seats in front of you/behind you, waking up other pax.
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RE: Seat 6B In Business On United's 777?

Sun Jan 12, 2014 5:40 pm

Don't worry about the 2-4-2. These are the exact same seats some other airlines use in 2-2-2 or 2-3-2 configurations and waste lots of space for the aisle.

Also getting up is not really an issue, if the person next to you is reclined and sleeping you just need to climb over their feet, something I've safely accomplished maybe a 100 times over the years.
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RE: Seat 6B In Business On United's 777?

Sun Jan 12, 2014 6:57 pm

Quoting Birdwatching (Thread starter):
I'm flying IAD-PEK in August on United's 777 in business class.... I've noticed that seat 6B shows as unavailable on United's seat map (it couldn't have been reserved by another passenger as I booked this flight on miles, literally hours after it went on sale).

Let me get this straight, did you just book this reservation recently, and if so, why do you say you booked it "literally hours after it went on sale", as that would have been 300+ days before the flight. Perhaps you booked your itinerary a while back and are only now bringing it up on A-net?

If that's your mis-conception (that the seats just went on sale recently), then undoubtably 6B is simply another paying passenger who, like me, likes to book early.

I concur with LAX's assertion; you have to be a little nimble but getting over the aisle seat passenger when reclined is not a problem.

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RE: Seat 6B In Business On United's 777?

Sun Jan 12, 2014 11:24 pm

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 3):
Don't worry about the 2-4-2. These are the exact same seats some other airlines use in 2-2-2 or 2-3-2 configurations and waste lots of space for the aisle.

Also getting up is not really an issue, if the person next to you is reclined and sleeping you just need to climb over their feet, something I've safely accomplished maybe a 100 times over the years.

But wouldn't you prefer one of the fairly numerous business class products where that's not necessary?
 
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RE: Seat 6B In Business On United's 777?

Sun Jan 12, 2014 11:25 pm

Quoting Birdwatching (Thread starter):
Anyway, I've noticed that seat 6B shows as unavailable on United's seat map (it couldn't have been reserved by another passenger as I booked this flight on miles, literally hours after it went on sale). When I pull up the itinerary on Lufthansa's site, the seat is missing altogether.
Does this mean they don't fill this seat with a passenger? Maybe crew rest? Can I safely select 6A and have an empty seat next to me, or what will happen?

I've seen this on multiple occasions before when I fly GRU-IAD and vice-versa. I believe it is reserved as a crew rest as I have witnessed F/As sleeping in J before, so if you select 6A, be prepared to have someone sleeping next to you.

As for the window seat, it is VERY tricky to step over the fully reclined seat into the isle, not only because the seat is reclined but there is very little room between the two seats to get your footing to actually make the step into the isle, and if you're tall you will have to bend over as to not hit your head on the bins.

I think you made the right decision with 7J, however I usually sit in row 9 and it's also quite pleasant  

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RE: Seat 6B In Business On United's 777?

Mon Jan 13, 2014 2:54 am

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 5):
But wouldn't you prefer one of the fairly numerous business class products where that's not necessary?

Not really. The seat is identical so is my personal space.

Imo, 2-4-2 is not an issue. Look at BA they have been so for a decade now and still get strong reviews of their biz product. (which I also recently flew on).
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RE: Seat 6B In Business On United's 777?

Mon Jan 13, 2014 1:32 pm

As long as you aren’t in the middle seats, the United business class seats are good. The seat is adequately wide in my opinion. The armrests are designed not to waste space, and the center and window section seats are not facing the same direction, so the aisle isn’t completely straight.

If you recline your footrest, it is actually easy to step over the person in the aisle seat. There’s no one reclining into your space since you have a wall between seats. The footwell is only about 8 inches, so you have plenty of room between the seat and the divider. I’ve had no problem stepping over the person in the aisle seat without disturbing them when they are asleep.

The biggest problem with the seat is that there is no storage for anything. Other than a piece of paper, there is no where to put anything during takeoff or landing. Even during flight, there isn’t much space. While the 8 abreast seating is actually quite comfortable, one of the things sacrificed was storage for anything. This is somewhat common with the latest generation business class seats.
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