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Why Do Airports Show Arrivals Info Airside

Thu Jun 26, 2014 3:27 pm

So I have noticed that on the FIDS boards there is often a few monitors that show arrival info while one is airside. Why do they still show that. I understand that pre 9-11 they showed that as it was common to meet friends and family at the gate, but why do they still show it.
 
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RE: Why Do Airports Show Arrivals Info Airside

Thu Jun 26, 2014 3:31 pm

Certainly helps employees.
Also there are a fair number of travelers that meet coworkers, friends, family at enroute airports. For example we see quite a few corporate meetings take place in airline lounge conference rooms here at LAX where people arrive from all over.
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RE: Why Do Airports Show Arrivals Info Airside

Thu Jun 26, 2014 3:37 pm

Quoting ORDJOE (Thread starter):
I understand that pre 9-11 they showed that as it was common to meet friends and family at the gate, but why do they still show it.

Although post-9/11 rules in the United States bar non-ticketed passengers from going airside (i.e., to greet arriving passengers), here is one scenario in which arrivals information airside would be useful:

John and Mary (brother and sister) live in different cities but are traveling though an airline's hub where they will board a flight together to visit their parents in Seattle. John is arriving in Chicago from Providence and Mary is arriving in Chicago from Cleveland. John arrives first and knows which flight from Cleveland Mary is arriving on in a half hour. Their flight to Seattle is not for two hours so John and Mary want to be able to find each other in order to have lunch together before their flight together to Seattle. John is able to look at the Arrivals Board to see what gate Mary will be arriving at so he can greet her there so they can go get lunch together before their flight to Seattle. Without the Arrivals Board John wouldn't know at what gate to greet Mary when she arrives from Cleveland.
 
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RE: Why Do Airports Show Arrivals Info Airside

Thu Jun 26, 2014 3:38 pm

Quoting ORDJOE (Thread starter):
Why do they still show that. I understand that pre 9-11 they showed that as it was common to meet friends and family at the gate, but why do they still show it.

I use it to check my assigned gate for departure. More often than not it will show a late arrival to the gate of the aircraft for the departure flight and the departure board will not be updated straight away.

Second, there has been more than one occasion where I meet up with someone coming from another flight and we will be taking to an additional flight to a continuing destination.

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RE: Why Do Airports Show Arrivals Info Airside

Thu Jun 26, 2014 3:49 pm

For spotters, of course.   
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RE: Why Do Airports Show Arrivals Info Airside

Thu Jun 26, 2014 3:53 pm

Many arrivals boards also display what baggage carousel your baggage is going to:

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RE: Why Do Airports Show Arrivals Info Airside

Thu Jun 26, 2014 4:04 pm

The "John and Mary" story above is interesting. More importantly, there are slightly similar situations where it is useful for people to meet up airside before going through immigration together.

I can think of tons of Filipina and Indonesian maids having a very hard time trying to enter Singapore, Hong Kong, etc unable to demonstrate enough money or credit cards to be considered "independent". Many are not granted entry, and are sent home. I have had two occasions when my girlfriend from Manila met me airside in Hong Kong, and we went through immigration together as a couple, with no questions about money! That would have been more tricky to organise without the arrivals FIDS airside
 
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RE: Why Do Airports Show Arrivals Info Airside

Thu Jun 26, 2014 4:31 pm

Just last Saturday, I arrived in the UA terminal in O'hare, and Chicago was my final destination. Signs pointed to two different directions for baggage claim, based on the carousel number. It helped me to be able to look at the Arrivals Board to see which carousel my bags would be coming off of, and I went down the stairway closest to that carousel. That saved me time and effort! And there were also Arrival FIDS in the baggage claim area itself.

[Edited 2014-06-26 09:35:03]
 
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RE: Why Do Airports Show Arrivals Info Airside

Thu Jun 26, 2014 4:41 pm

Perfect example of John and Mary.

But I also think that after 9/11, arrival information is just as crucial as before, with the mentioned scenario, so people can meet up. Costs to take them out might also be a factor.
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RE: Why Do Airports Show Arrivals Info Airside

Thu Jun 26, 2014 4:51 pm

Another example- Last month in Denver my flight was delayed so I used the board to find the inbound flight number. I could then better predict when my next flight would leave.
 
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RE: Why Do Airports Show Arrivals Info Airside

Thu Jun 26, 2014 5:40 pm

Um, connecting flights? Why wouldn't I want to know when my inbound flight is arriving?
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RE: Why Do Airports Show Arrivals Info Airside

Thu Jun 26, 2014 5:46 pm

Where you are travelling with an airline with few flights at a particular airport, it's easy to work out which arrival forms which departure. If the arrival is 30 minutes late you can expect a delayed departure even if they pull a few minutes back on turnround.
 
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RE: Why Do Airports Show Arrivals Info Airside

Fri Jun 27, 2014 12:39 am

Quoting N766UA (Reply 10):
Um, connecting flights? Why wouldn't I want to know when my inbound flight is arriving?

Of course you could just ask the friendly gate agent if the inbound flight will be late and what the true departure time for your flight will be. If you get a truthful answer you could then stand next to a window and watch the pigs fly by.

I always try to find the inbound flight then use flight aware or something equivalent to deduce the information myself. Some of the flight tracker apps can do that for you, but at a small airport like RNO I can do it faster by looking at the arrival board. Less easy at UA terminal at DEN.
 
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RE: Why Do Airports Show Arrivals Info Airside

Fri Jun 27, 2014 12:46 am

Quoting N766UA (Reply 10):
Um, connecting flights? Why wouldn't I want to know when my inbound flight is arriving?

On a connection I'm more interested in the departure time of the connecting flight. If the inbound flight is delayed the outbound flight probably will be too.

And at the connecting hubs I use, the flight number of the inbound and outbound flight is different, so how would you know what inbound flight is using the aircraft scheduled to operate the flight you're connecting to?
 
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RE: Why Do Airports Show Arrivals Info Airside

Fri Jun 27, 2014 12:48 am

Quoting aklrno (Reply 12):
Of course you could just ask the friendly gate agent if the inbound flight will be late and what the true departure time for your flight will be. If you get a truthful answer you could then stand next to a window and watch the pigs fly by.

Funny you should mention that. My gate AAgent last week in ORD insisted my inbound was actually in a hangar. It ended up being 3 hours late and had a lot of mechanics getting off disguised as passengers. If it was in a hangar, the hangar was in MSP  
 
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RE: Why Do Airports Show Arrivals Info Airside

Sat Jul 05, 2014 9:13 am

Quoting PacNWjet (Reply 2):
Without the Arrivals Board John wouldn't know at what gate to greet Mary when she arrives from Cleveland.

There is however the possibility that John and Mary each own a blamed cell phone and can call or text the other to tell them what gate they're at.

Sis had to pick me up once at BTV; where I was arriving from SFO via ORD; and I had told her during each of several phone calls preceding the trip that I will be arriving on flight #bla from Chicago O'Hare; yes Chicago O'Hare is whence my flight to BTV originates, that's Chicago O'Hare; so it'll be nice to stretch my legs for a bit what with my journey having a stop in Chicago. (Chicago, see, is the metropolis in whose area the O'Hare airport is located. Chicago.)

Getting into her car outside of BTV with my bags & travel sundries, she asked me, visibly flummoxed, "Where did you get that Chicago Tribune?!??"
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