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T\O Under Havey Winds

Sun Aug 13, 2000 12:59 am

hey how are you alll aviation experts..

i recently bought fly! with its amazing 757-200er airline package which i think is the most realistic panel and aircrafts avilable today in the market

i got a simple question..
whenever i am trying to depart in a havey wind situation my plane always deverts from the runway ALTOUGH i am using full rudders !!!!

this thing is really getting under my skin and i want to learn how to operate the aircraft in the most realistic way that fly! lets me to so can somone please give me an adivce on what to do in these extreme situation

thanks in advance


RE: T\O Under Havey Winds

Sun Aug 13, 2000 2:16 am

>>whenever i am trying to depart in a havey wind situation...<<

What's a "havey" wind? Do you mean "heavy" as in "strong" wind? If so, how much wind are you talking about? It is possible to run out of rudder to correct for a strong x-wind and possible run off the side of the runway. You also have to use aileron.
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RE: T\O Under Havey Winds

Sun Aug 13, 2000 6:59 am

i am talking bout this

i am taking off in like 30 knts of wind coming from my right side
lets say
the runway is 36 and the wind comes from 100 deg

what do i do !!!!!!

RE: T\O Under Havey Winds

Sun Aug 13, 2000 8:37 am

You may have exceeded the crosswind limit. 30 knots at a nearly direct crosswind will push almost any plane off the runway. As you rotate you'd need to add a lot of aileron because when the nose gear leaves the ground you'll lose a lot of controll. Even in a 757 I'd probably wait for the winds to die down.


RE: T\O Under Havey Winds

Sun Aug 13, 2000 9:29 am

Also, this is a technique....I am not familiar with your flight simulator though....

Keep your eyes focussed well toward the end of the runway to hold the centerline. Keeping a near-vision focus over the nose will cause you to overcorrect.

As has been stated, neutral ailerons won't help you at all. Initially in a real, heavy aircraft the steering will be done with the nose wheel tiller (until about 60kts) In general keep the ailerons turned into the wind. If the wind is from the right, ailerons should be turned to the right (right aileron up, left one down). Once rudder steering is effective, don't over correct. As has been stated, the aircraft will get REAL squirrely once the nosewheel rotates! Keep the ailerons into the wind, and slowly adjust to neutral when the main lifts up. This is a skill that takes some time and practice.

Also, practice on a lighter crosswind, 30 kts is varsity level for a novice!
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RE: T\O Under Havey Winds

Sun Aug 13, 2000 10:23 am

You might consider a "differential power takeoff" That is where you hold off power on the upwind side of the aircraft so the aircraft has a tendency to turn into the wind.

This is strictly schoolhouse rules. There was a CASA 212 up here a couple of years ago that attempted a takeoff from Sparvohn(SPL?). The pilot told the Feds that the plane wasn't developing full power on the one side When they got the CASA and the flight recorders out from C-130 that flew the wreakage back from there the discovered that the pilot discussed a differential power takeoff.

The engines also bench ran ok anyway.
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RE: T\O Under Havey Winds

Mon Aug 14, 2000 4:18 am

Also keep in mind that I haven't yet seen a PC simulator that had an accurate wind model on the ground.  
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