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Christmas Curse......

Wed Jan 03, 2001 2:48 pm

I have just received my New Years Gift From my employer. 2 weeks severence pay. It seems I have been graced with another furlough.

It so much fun to be low on the seniority.

For any airline managment who may be reading this thread. Kiss my holiday chear Ass. Furlough someone after christmas. What the hell are you thinking !!!!!

As a pilot you are a comodity. You are employed only as long as you are needed, and not a second more. Airlines as employers fail to give a shit if you can't pay the rent next month.

So to Any airline managment who furloughed anybody after Christmas....GO FUCK YOURSELVES.


RE: Christmas Curse......

Wed Jan 03, 2001 7:20 pm

Sorry to hear about the furlough, as an European this concept is pretty new to me, can you explain the implications?

I know that the obvious one is that you are out of a job, but are you free to seek employment elsewhere, are you bonded, do you know how long the furlough will be for?

Finally what does your union think of this sort of action?


RE: Christmas Curse......

Wed Jan 03, 2001 7:56 pm

I double the "FUCK YOU" to management, just on principle!

Sorry to hear it JETPILOT.... don't know what else to say but I hope things shake out for you.

I also would like to express my condolences to the boys and girls at CCair.. They just furloughed the bottom 35. Damn Mesa... everytime they gobble up an airline its bad news.
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RE: Christmas Curse......

Wed Jan 03, 2001 8:55 pm

I have no union protection until finished with my probationary period which is one year. I have been employed 8 months.

I wasn't actually furloughed. To use their term I was "terminated".

Upon further questioning of the chief pilot I found out that if you are furloughed then your time on furlough counts towards your probation. Meaning if I was furloughed for 4 months I would be off probation.

So it is the companies policy to terminate those pilots who are still on probation in order to make them complete another year when recalled.

I have no idea how long it will last. Honestly I give a rats ass less if they ever call me back.

Managment has given me such a distaste for this proffesion that it's sucked every last ounce of passion for flying profesionaly from my body. And everyone knows how much I enjoyed flying.

I'll find another profesion and hope my desire for flying returns some day. If not...Oh well.

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RE: Christmas Curse......

Fri Jan 05, 2001 10:24 am

I am really sorry to hear of the bad news.

I thought that pilots were in demand at the moment in the US. Am I wrong?

Anyway, hope your problem ceases to be, in the very near future.
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RE: Christmas Curse......

Fri Jan 05, 2001 10:54 am

There are old pilots, and stupid pilots, then there's JETPILOT.
Get lost.
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RE: Christmas Curse......

Mon Jan 08, 2001 9:12 am

Sorry to hear that, JET.

Unfortunately, it's getting to be that way in most u.s. businesses. Even mine, tv news.

Two t.v. stations that I know of in the southern u.s. have "pulled the plug" on their news departments, terminating everyone. One place just did it last week, giving their employees 5 hours notice!

As employees (in any profession) we are just a commodity to be used and discarded when not needed.

Sad but true.
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RE: Christmas Curse......

Mon Jan 08, 2001 9:47 am

Ho! Ho! Ho!

Carma's a bitch!  
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RE: Christmas Curse......

Mon Jan 08, 2001 5:12 pm

Give me a line at JP I'll se what I can do.
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RE: Christmas Curse......

Wed Jan 10, 2001 1:00 pm


I'm sorry about your problem. You always seem to be getting the raw end of the deal.  

Have you given any thought to maybe 'starting over' again? I mean start with a regional carrier that has a flow through agreement (ie: American Eagle). Maybe that will pan out for you.

None of these firings were caused by any actions made by you; from what I understand it was all unfortunate circumstance. This may not bite you during the interview process. Also, you have many more hours than anyone being hired currently so that should help you.

You'll have to make some sacrafices here, but I really don't see any alternative here.

To make sure that you get the best possible chance at being hired, I'd talk to Doug Taylor ( and see if he'll be willing to hand-carry your resume to the folks who'll be looking at them.

- Neil Harrison

P.S. DC10hound: Please keep your comments to yourself. Jetpilot has been through a lot and he needs to talk to someone about his loss. I sense that you don't know what he's going through and I applaud you for that. No one should ever go through the hell that Jetpilot has gone through.
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RE: Christmas Curse......

Thu Jan 11, 2001 3:45 am


FedEx announced openings today for 500 pilots... Get an app in! HTTP://PILOT.FEDEX.COM. Sorry I couldn't tell you about it before the deal became public.


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RE: Christmas Curse......

Thu Jan 11, 2001 4:12 pm

Date: January 10, 2001

From: Bruce Cheever

Subject: Posting 01-01
To: All Pilots

Attached is Posting 01-01, which accounts for increased staffing needs due to the new contract with the U.S. Postal Service to provide air capacity for domestic transportation of certain postal services. The revenue flying associated with this agreement is expected to begin in the September 2001 bid month. Also, this posting reflects staffing needs due to aircraft deliveries and pilot retirements through FY02.

The posting is open as of the date of this memo and will close at 1800Z ON THURSDAY, JANUARY 25. There will be practice bids on Tuesday, Jan. 16, and Monday, Jan. 22.

We are posting primary vacancies for 243 widebody captains, 88 B-727 captains, 244 widebody first officers, 76 B-727 first officers, and 50 B-727 second officers. In addition, we plan to fill secondary vacancies in all seats.

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