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What Do You Carry With You In Cockpit?

Wed Apr 11, 2001 9:59 pm

Dear forum,

What kind of paperwork is there usually in the cockpit of an airliner? Checklists, approach plates, flight plans, OK. What else? For what airports do you have the approach plates on board? Only for the ones on route? I imagine you can't bring all airport approach plates in the world... Also, are you using maps with visual references, like sectional charts sometimes? Do the pilots themselves have to carry all this paperwork from cockpit to cockpit?? Or is all this paperwork and info on paper being replaced by laptop computers?

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RE: What Do You Carry With You In Cockpit?

Wed Apr 11, 2001 11:15 pm

Approach plates for all authorized airports plus all alternate's. Jep. Hi and low alt. maps, no sectionals are required or hardly used. Airlines by agreement with Air Transport Ass. never fly VFR from A to B. We can do a visual approach but that is another can of worms. Aircraft manual, Operations manual and the Jep books are usually 2 or 3 in number. Good flash lite and of course the latest Field@Stream or Playboy is a must, not to mention my 9 m/m Glock.  Smile
 
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RE: What Do You Carry With You In Cockpit?

Wed Apr 11, 2001 11:50 pm

Dittos to what Pappy said, but with a few additions and exceptions. I also carry a copy of the computer flight plans, a headset, a pair of spare eyeglassses, and we also carry a complete set of VFR WAC charts for the entire US and Canada since we do, on occasion, fly in and out of non-IFR airports. VFR charts for other areas of the world are purchased on as "as needed" basis. Reading material usually consists of whatever we can scarf from the FBO pilot's lounge. No firearms in our cockpit. I've got a concealed carry permit, but that wouldn't do me much good. We also carry, in database form, and have the means to print every Jepp chart published for any airport in the world with runways > 5000' in length. The paper approach charts are pretty much just for backup. We're in the process of going to a "paperless" cockpit. (I'm not too sure yet how I'm going to like it.)
 
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Jetguy

Thu Apr 12, 2001 2:23 am

Just kidding about the 9mm, paperless cockpit? Not to sure I'd like that either, what will you use to soak up the cold coffee that gets thrown in the trash bag. Humm??
 
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RE: What Do You Carry With You In Cockpit?

Thu Apr 12, 2001 2:47 am

Soaking up spilled coffee? That's the copilot's problem. Big grin
 
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RE: What Do You Carry With You In Cockpit?

Thu Apr 12, 2001 3:54 am

Yall forgot about the inflatable pilots. That is the essential piece to every airline cockpit.


One of these days im going ot actually bring one of those on board the airplane just to see how people react. Too bad I'd get fired.
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RE: What Do You Carry With You In Cockpit?

Thu Apr 12, 2001 8:37 am

Ive always wondered about guns in the cockpit. Is it at the pilots personal discretion? It seems that a gun would be real useful in an air rage/hijacking situation.
 
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RE: What Do You Carry With You In Cockpit?

Thu Apr 12, 2001 8:49 am

No pilot I know of has a gun, for a couple reasons! The airplane is packed full of people, if you miss yoru target you are very likely to hit some innocent person. You could also make a hole in the plane causing a decompression, and also if the gun got into the wrong hands. In air rage situations the crew generally really on the passengers who are very good about dealing with these people.
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RE: What Do You Carry With You In Cockpit?

Thu Apr 12, 2001 8:49 am

Remember the end of 'Goldfinger'  Smile

In addition to the above stated items, we carry an Airport/Facility Directory and our company's General Operations Manual. We also have WACs and a couple of sectionals for the areas we fly in.
 
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RE: What Do You Carry With You In Cockpit?

Thu Apr 12, 2001 12:23 pm

At one point, back in the late 60's and 70's when hijackings were all the "rage" flight crews were authorized to carry firearms in the cockpit. Also there were armed air marshals on randomly selected flights. I'm not sure of the current status, but I think that it's been quietly done away with. Pappy in the cockpit with a Glock??? Scary thought. Big grin
 
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RE: What Do You Carry With You In Cockpit?

Fri Apr 13, 2001 7:38 am

I was on a flight in a turbo prop where the co-pilot had a box of Triscuits.
 
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RE: What Do You Carry With You In Cockpit?

Fri Apr 13, 2001 7:50 am

JetGuy, when I was taking a tour of UA ops, I had just done the walk around of the 777 with the FO, and no sooner then we sat in back in the cockpit 2 armed US marshals entered with paper work for the captain to sign so he knew about them being armed. He said it makes him feel much safer, as if a passenger does decide to be naughty he knows they will deal with it, and it will not be his responsibility.
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RE: What Do You Carry With You In Cockpit?

Fri Apr 13, 2001 7:19 pm

My dad must have looked like a Beverly Hillbilly coming back from his last trip... two indian rugs, my pro flight kit that he got me for my birthday, and all his normal flight kit and suitcase stuff.



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RE: XFSUgimp

Sat Apr 14, 2001 6:02 am

He put two rugs in the cockpit???
 
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RE: What Do You Carry With You In Cockpit?

Sat Apr 14, 2001 8:03 am

Will someone answer the question instead of talking about guns, hijackings, rugs, and your personal crap?

What I take in the cockpit during my lessons: headsets, kneeboard, sectional charts, aircraft checklist.
 
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RE: What Do You Carry With You In Cockpit?

Sat Apr 14, 2001 9:08 am

hehe yeah.. actually he put them in the crew baggage portion under the plane with his bags... in india they fold them up into suitcase size things and wrap them in burlap. Still.. he had to walk down the jet way with all that crap, just handed it to the ground crew at the mouth of hte jetway.
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RE: What Do You Carry With You In Cockpit?

Sat Apr 14, 2001 8:26 pm

I posted above but will give another more thorough answer for Jet Joc:
Our company provides NOS terminal charts for the entire state we fly in. If we want to use Jeppesen we have to provide our own. They also provide the government versions of the high and low altitude enroute charts and several WACs along with a few sectionals. We use the VFR charts quite a bit, especially when the visibility is good and we want to brush up on exactly what we are flying over. We've got our company's Hazmat Handbook and the Emergency Response Guidebook, a copy of the Airplane Flight Manual, a Minimum Equipment List, a quick reference guide for our GPS, etc. All of that stuff stays in each airplane...if you wanted to you could go from airplane to airplane with just your headset and be able to fly any approach and any airway that we could possibly encounter. Laptop computers and paperless cockpits are far in the future for me  Smile

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RE: What Do You Carry With You In Cockpit?

Sun Apr 15, 2001 6:01 am

Paperless cockpit actually sounds pretty cool.. anyone seen that Jepp approach plate thing in sporty's? I guess i am one of those new fangled pilots. I really like having the paper charts, but not having to carry around all my approach plates and throwing away all those plates every few months kinda sucks. It would be nice to get a software up date instead as long as it doesnt cost me more tahn the price of a car.
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