Bryan Becker
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Way To Close,what Do You Think?

Sat Apr 14, 2001 8:05 am

I scraped up this photo off this website,an I was thinken to my self this is way to close for me?Sitten there haveing a drink and this 727 comes by.Well now you are not drinken it you are sitten in it.now you have to go home and change. SmileWhat do you think?



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JG
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RE: Way To Close,what Do You Think?

Sat Apr 14, 2001 9:04 am

Hmm, with some hearing protection I would love to have a drink there. Vibration alone would be pretty exciting.  Smile
 
JETPILOT
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RE: Way To Close,what Do You Think?

Sat Apr 14, 2001 9:14 am

The photo is doctored.

At that close of a range you would need an impossibly high shutter speed to freeze a plane going 160 mph.

The plane at that altitude should be in the flare and at this point theres nothing below him but playground.

I dont believe it.

JET
 
TomH
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RE: Way To Close,what Do You Think?

Sat Apr 14, 2001 9:15 am

Yeah, but I would check for blue ice in that drink before I took another sip!!!! Anazing photo.
TomH
 
JG
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RE: Way To Close,what Do You Think?

Sat Apr 14, 2001 11:10 am

Location, Location, Location... at least that is what I have been told.

For grins I did put this photo into my PhotoShop and it certainly appears to be doctored... I would still have a drink there... Shaken, not stirred.

Cheers
 
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RE: Way To Close,what Do You Think?

Sat Apr 14, 2001 11:13 am

It's not a doctored photo. The shot was taken at the airport in Tegucigalpa Honduras. I used to live very near there. It's quite an interesting approach. Ye Haw!
 
I Like To Fly
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RE: Way To Close,what Do You Think?

Sat Apr 14, 2001 12:34 pm

Where do you guys see modification? I opened it up in PaintShop and I see NO signs of any modifications. That doesn't mean there can't be any, but you guys make it seem like it should hit you in the face it is so obvious. I have seen and modified many photos myself and can usually pick out any obvious signs. JG, what exactly makes you think it is doctored? I see no reason not to believe Jetguy, it is probably a real approach in Honduras. Looks like a great restaurant, no matter what the food tastes like! Smile/happy/getting dizzy
 
SophieMaltese
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RE: Way To Close,what Do You Think?

Sat Apr 14, 2001 12:53 pm

It might just be the way the shot was taken that makes the plane look closer than it really is.
 
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RE: Way To Close,what Do You Think?

Sat Apr 14, 2001 1:01 pm

If that's real, get me on the first flight to Honduras!!!
 
XFSUgimpLB41X
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RE: Way To Close,what Do You Think?

Sat Apr 14, 2001 1:15 pm

727's arent exactly small airplanes. That plane has plenty of clearance.
Chicks dig winglets.
 
joe
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RE: Way To Close,what Do You Think?

Sat Apr 14, 2001 1:29 pm

The Restaurant is well named, it appears that your only a few feet(and a screwed up approach) away from the Infinite!
 
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RE: Way To Close,what Do You Think?

Sat Apr 14, 2001 4:26 pm

Si senor, and por favor two tamales and una cerveza.....Ay dios mio!!!

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RE: Way To Close,what Do You Think?

Sat Apr 14, 2001 5:10 pm

Oh, I'm sorry, I thought I was in the Tech/Ops forum.
 
Panman
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RE: Way To Close,what Do You Think?

Sat Apr 14, 2001 6:31 pm

JETPILOT all I have to ask is are you really?

160 mph just before flaring? Would that 727 be coming in above it's Maximum Landing Weight by chance?

Hell even a 747 doesn't land that fast.

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ericCieslar
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RE: Way To Close,what Do You Think?

Sat Apr 14, 2001 8:04 pm

well all i goto say is that thats one kool place to have a drink!
 
Top Gun
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RE: Way To Close,what Do You Think?

Sun Apr 15, 2001 5:27 am

Panman: perhaps you are confused, 160 MILES PER HOUR is only 139 knots. The Vref of the 47-400 at, lets say MLW, is somewhere around 155 knots. Not that far fetched when you think about it.
 
DG_pilot
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RE: Way To Close,what Do You Think?

Sun Apr 15, 2001 2:45 pm

Look at the port side wing and that palm tree. They clearly overlap in the picture. Next look at the shadow of the palm on the wing. Then look at the shadows on the ground. The angles of the shadows do not correspond with each other at all. I would say it is doctored.
 
skwpilot
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RE: Way To Close,what Do You Think?

Sun Apr 15, 2001 3:26 pm

At first, I thought I'd found my new favorite vacation spot, but something didn't look right. Now, I'm no photo expert, however I also think that this photo is doctored. If one looks at the shadow of the horizontal stabilizer on the vertical stabilizer, it would appear that the light source is on the almost directly from the left side of the photo and just slightly above the horizon. This varified by the shadow on the VHF antenna just forward of the wing root- there is very little shadow. Now look at the shadow of the roof of the building on the ground- it looks like the light source is about 45 degrees above the horizon. It just looks like there's two different light sources.

No dice!
....But really cool looking!

Skwpilot
 
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RE: Way To Close,what Do You Think?

Sun Apr 15, 2001 11:30 pm

All I can say is that's a "Air Service of Honduras" B727 and the surrounding area is definatively Tegucigalpa. I used to live there and that's just the way they do it. There's no surprise here. I think that camera lens alters the perspective a bit, but not very much. The entire approach is wild, especially the part where you fly down the canyon. I heard that when TWA first tried it in one of their 727s the pilots refused to fly it out once they had landed. It was a proving flight and TWA ended up sending a special crew to fly the airplane out. Que huevos!
 
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RE: Way To Close,what Do You Think?

Mon Apr 16, 2001 12:07 am

Just look up pictures with the key word "Honduras" on this search engine and you will see that this picture is not necesarily "doctored"...

Sven
 
airplay
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RE: Way To Close,what Do You Think?

Mon Apr 16, 2001 12:12 am

DG_Pilot,

The port wing is the aircraft's left wing, the starboard wing is the aircraft's right wing.

Picky? Maybe.

Also, I agree that this does NOT look like a retouched photo. All the shadows agree perfectly. If it is a fake, congratulations to the artist!

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RE: Way To Close,what Do You Think?

Mon Apr 16, 2001 2:17 am

Mmmh


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Sure looks real to me.... Now who else wants to fly there?

Regards

Ikarus

PS: El Infinito - is that the bar or the mountains in the background?
 
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RE: Way To Close,what Do You Think?

Mon Apr 16, 2001 2:36 am

I like that last picture, the one of the Electra. I first flew in to Tegucigalpa on one of SAHSA's Electras. It was a wild ride - it scared me and I'm fearless. You'll notice the cars parked on the road that runs perpendicular to the runway threshhold. While I was in Honduras, a bus full of people was driving along the road while a DC3 was on short final. They collided and a whole bunch of people were killed. It's a very interesting place - they do things differently down there.
 
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RE: Way To Close,what Do You Think?

Mon Apr 16, 2001 2:45 am

Okay, let me explain to those who don't believe the photo why I don't think it is doctored. Every shadow in this photograph can be accounted for. I stick with my original post this is NOT doctored. For those that need a little extra help... The clearest shadow is that of the trees and building to the left, use that as a reference. Now using that angle all shadows match. The sunlight is being REFLECTED off the plane at a different angle, which can be confusing if you really scrutinize the photo. It would appear the sun is hitting the plane at a different angle than everything else in the picture, but it is NOT. It is kind of like shining a flashlight into a mirror at an angle and it APPEARS you are pointing it somewhere else in the room. But this happens in real pictures all the time, especially is you have a large shiny object in the center. Everything pointed out has so far been inaccurate, so I still this is a 100% genuine picture.

$.02 Smile/happy/getting dizzy
 
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True Story At TGU

Mon Apr 16, 2001 3:01 am

I route-checked into TGU while dispatching for Air Florida, which had service MIA-TGU-SAP-MIA. I decided to ride down and see things for myself after one of our captains had related the following story to us a couple of weeks earlier..

The captain of one MIA-TGU flight, Ralph XXXX, dragged himself back into our office upon his return to MIA one afternoon, looking like he'd been through the worst sim ride in his life. He wasn't quite happy, and it took us a few minutes to get the story from him, and a couple of hours to figure out what happened.

TGU is a challenging airport, as the photos show. At the time (1982) they had a VOR approach, but the VOR was almost always inop. There were two 2 NDBs near the airport, one north, the other south, and for simplicity' sake, I'll just refer to them as ABC and XYZ.

Captain Ralph shot two approaches into TGU (since they were IMC) and missed both times. The cloulds broke just in time, and he got in visually.

Why did he miss? For reasons that have never been explained, the Honduran goverment folks (without NOTAMing *any* of this) had apparently gone out to the ABC site, removed the transmitter guts, and reinstalled it at the XYZ location. The XYZ transmitter guts were similarly re-installed at the ABC location. Accordingly, he was about 180 degrees off in his orientation to the airport (on top of the cloud deck) and wasn't about to fool around with an IMC letdown in mountainous terrain.

I'll never forget his remark that the navaids down there were strapped to the backs of mountain goats, aimlessly wandering the hills...

Never heard anything from the Hondurans, but ABC and XYZ were swapped back to their proper places a couple of days later....
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Panman....

Mon Apr 16, 2001 5:38 am

Boy did you make yourself look stupid. You sure you should be posting things in the tech forum and not listening?

JET
 
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Airplay

Mon Apr 16, 2001 9:17 am

Gosh dang it!!! I knew that. What was I thinking....

That bothers me.  Wink/being sarcastic

 
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RE: Way To Close,what Do You Think?

Mon Apr 16, 2001 1:38 pm

Wow..But I was told that that is not a busy airport..
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