Bryan Becker
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Bypass Ratio

Sun Apr 22, 2001 6:00 am

I would like to know what thismeans I know what bypass is but how do you read this?

4.9-to-1 and 6-to-1,

Does that mean for every 4.9lb's of air sucked in only 1 pound goes through the engine and the rest go through the bypass? please help me on this!!!!!!!!!!!! Smile


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flyf15
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RE: Bypass Ratio

Sun Apr 22, 2001 6:32 am

You're correct.
 
Aero42
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RE: Bypass Ratio

Sun Apr 22, 2001 10:55 am

Bypass ratio is the area ratio's the bypass area to the jet intake area. A 4.9 to 1 bypass ratio would mean that the area of the bypass on an engine is 4.9 times that of the area of the jet intake.
 
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RE: Bypass Ratio

Sun Apr 22, 2001 11:34 am

Just to be picky, 4.9 lb would go through the bypass, and 1 lb through the core, totalling 5.9 lb.  Smile
 
aaron atp
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Avt007

Sun Apr 22, 2001 2:30 pm

if you really want to be picky, it is 4.9 & 1 slugs of air, not pounds. It's a ratio of mass, not weight.

aaron
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aaron atp
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Aero42

Sun Apr 22, 2001 2:55 pm

>>>Bypass ratio is the area ratio's the bypass area to the jet intake area. A 4.9 to 1 bypass ratio would mean that the area of the bypass on an engine is 4.9 times that of the area of the jet intake. <<<

Is that what they are teaching at CalPoly?

is that going to be the average frontal surface area? ...or just at the beginning of the duct?


aaron

 
310_engineer
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RE: Bypass Ratio

Mon Apr 23, 2001 6:05 am


Bypass ratio = secondary airflow / primary airflow
 
aaron atp
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RE: Bypass Ratio

Mon Apr 23, 2001 7:02 am

310 engineer, my last post was an attempt at sarcasm. Apparently the aerospace engineering program at CalPoly is a bit lacking.

wtf are they teaching these kids?

http://www.airliners.net/discussions/profile.main?username=Aero42

aaron



 
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RE: Bypass Ratio

Mon Apr 23, 2001 1:14 pm

To give you an idea of what sort of ratio is out there, the 777's GE90's are aprox. 8:1 (units). An older turbo jet is 1:1 (JT8D's as on the 737-200's) not to create confusion that is not a bypass engine.

A turbo fan is a Bypass
A turbo jet is not.
 
aria
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RE: Bypass Ratio

Mon Apr 23, 2001 1:36 pm

Aaron atp:

Hello....thank God someone out there knows all the answers to everything....now I can sleep at night knowing that the next generation will be taken care of...
Aria
 
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Aria

Mon Apr 23, 2001 2:22 pm

I thank god for that too... After all, if enough of those impressionable daytona beach kids were to read that second reply to the original post, we could convince the world engineering community to amend the definition of bypass-ratio based on popular belief of the ignorant-masses.

Maybe we could even get them to present a working play-doh scale model of a GE-90 to the Royal Aeronautical Society as a basis for this bold new theorem.

have a nice evening and I'm sure you will sleep well.


aaron
 
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RE: Bypass Ratio

Mon Apr 23, 2001 3:17 pm

just to correct Aria....

Turbojets have a 0 to 1 ratio.. no bypass at all... Acting devilish

Early low ratio turbofans like the JT3D, Conway etc had ratios of 1 to 1 or less ( Convays were .4 to 1)

 Insane

Wasnt till the C-5 and 747 program the High Ratio Bypass (4 to 1 or greater) really took off, mostly because there simply wasnt the demand for engines that size... and if you didnt need the power.. heck gas was cheap  Smokin cool and noise didnt matter much  Big thumbs up so buy a spey or jt8d or whatever.... Wink/being sarcastic
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310_engineer
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RE: Bypass Ratio

Wed Apr 25, 2001 4:07 am

Top gun

FYI JT8D Is not a turbojet but a low bypass turbofan
 
Top Gun
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RE: Bypass Ratio

Wed Apr 25, 2001 1:45 pm

I'm sorry I was shooting my mouth of again and infact the JT8D's are Bypass. Silly me.
 
310_engineer
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RE: Bypass Ratio

Thu Apr 26, 2001 12:33 am

You are forgiven
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Terminology

Thu Apr 26, 2001 12:46 am

The term "turbojet" is used in the NOAA DP and STAR charts (if nowhere else) referring to jets in general. We fans like to suppose there are no turbojet airliners out there (except the Concorde) but we might get outvoted.

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