ejaymd11
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MD-11 Improvements

Tue Jun 19, 2001 4:13 am

What improvements whould you make to the MD-11 and why.

Ejay MD-11
 
prebennorholm
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RE: MD-11 Improvements

Tue Jun 19, 2001 5:21 am

The MD-11 is a great plane as it is. But as many other great planes its basic design dates well over 30 years back in time to a period when large engines were less powerful, ETOPS was unknown, FBW controls was only being tested on the Concorde and military planes, and composite structures were far less advanced.

So for "improving the MD-11" I would simply buy an A330 or B777 instead. That's also what the airline companies do these days.

But the MD-11s, which are already there, they will hopefully cary on for the next twenty years. As it looks today most of them will be cargo converted. They will of course last longer than those DC-10s which during these days are being converted to MD-10 at considerable costs.

The fact that such an extensive modification program is viable, and that 30+ years old DC-8s and DC-9s seem almost impossible to retire, it proves that Douglas (and MD) made high quality planes. Too bad that they couldn't make money on it. They failed to continue development of modern designs during the 70'es and 80'es, and it doomed them in the 90'es. Was is too tense competition, or was it too greedy shareholders? Probably a combination of both.

Best regards, Preben Norholm
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JT-8D
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RE: MD-11 Improvements

Tue Jun 19, 2001 7:39 am

Anyone remember the MD-12x? That got shelved in about 92 or 93..JT
 
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RE: MD-11 Improvements

Tue Jun 19, 2001 12:16 pm

Here's how to improve the MD11:

- shorten it 18 feet
- bigger horiz. stab.
- remove winglets

in short, bring back the DC10 (no MD10 crap). DC10-50, like the MD10 but with passengers.
 
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RE: MD-11 Improvements

Tue Jun 19, 2001 12:44 pm

KonaB777

Interesting ideas, but why?
 
FDXmech
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RE: MD-11 Improvements

Wed Jun 20, 2001 12:46 am

Good question, but improve in what respect? Reliability, fuel efficiency, improved safety, etc?
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ejaymd11
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RE: MD-11 Improvements

Wed Jun 20, 2001 1:04 am

FDXmech. All of the above. But I want to preserve its personality that some if not most pilots that fly the 11 love about it.
 
JT-8D
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RE: MD-11 Improvements

Wed Jun 20, 2001 3:34 am

Kona, Im with ya dude..JT
 
DC-10Tech
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RE: MD-11 Improvements

Wed Jun 20, 2001 8:51 am

The MD-11 is a great aircraft, so is the -10 for that matter. If it is properly maintained, the reliability rates are astounding. We fly over 96% on time take offs with out fleet...our youngest -10 is 23 years old! If you want a little history on what caused the downfall of Douglas (believe it or not, the DC-10 was a major factor) just go to my page and look under 'history and development' under the DC-10 menu. http://extender1.tripod.com
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JT-8D
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RE: MD-11 Improvements

Wed Jun 20, 2001 8:57 am

How many times can one person plug a website? 5 times so far, and still going and going and going..JT
 
DC-10Tech
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RE: MD-11 Improvements

Wed Jun 20, 2001 8:59 am

That's because my website is geared towards answering these kinds of questions. What's your problem pal? I'm sharing information with fellow enthusiasts, not selling anything. And if you went to the site and read the story, you'd see why I posted the link.
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JT-8D
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RE: MD-11 Improvements

Wed Jun 20, 2001 9:10 am

Been to the site, like your resume too. Call me knucklehead again, we will get along just fine. What does acars stand for again?..JT
 
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RE: MD-11 Improvements

Wed Jun 20, 2001 9:22 am

Funny, Aircraft/ARINC, I've seen it both ways in the books. Don't make me quote them again!  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
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