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Blue Water Diving

Tue Jun 19, 2001 7:49 am

Ever have one of those days (nights) when everything goes wrong? Spend hours on a problem and still not fix it? Worse yet, you get to work on the most glamourous system on the plane, the toilet. My question is, what is the strangest, weirdest, or coolest thing that ever blocked a dump valve on an airplane. I have removed many diapers, soft drink cans, cans of glass cleaner, and a nice pair of ray-bans. Once I found a wallet with $600 cash. It was very blue, but Im sure its owner (a lawyer) spent every penny. Please dont leave posts about how dangerous it is to reach into a toilet. It has to get done somehow..JT
 
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RE: Blue Water Diving

Tue Jun 19, 2001 11:22 am

I pulled cell phone out of a biffy on a DASH 8. It was ringing when I got to it, but I didn't feel the need to answer.
 
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RE: Blue Water Diving

Tue Jun 19, 2001 1:22 pm

Nothing too unusual, I've retrieved the usual array of barf bags (full of course), soda cans, diapers, and most often- paper towels, lots of them. I'll never understand how people who would never throw a paper towel in their toilet at home will throw almost anything in an aircraft lavatory.

At a previous airline I worked for, we constructed a small hook at the end of some 1/2" stainless tubing to avoid having to reach down in to the tank. Hell , I'd rather go "fishing" for 30 minutes than put my arm in there for two. Thank god for the MEL. Turn times were so tight we'd often placard the door "out of service" to get the plane out on time.

So folks, the next time you're on an aircraft with one or more of the lavs out of service and the lines at the remaining operating lavs are quite long, you can thank the jackass passenger who clogged it.
 
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RE: Blue Water Diving

Wed Jun 20, 2001 3:58 am

Twotterwrench, what if it was a test. Maybe it was the ceo of your company. Might have meant a promotion if you answered? You know how the typical Management type is--lol. What if it was Ed Mcmahon, maybe you could have won 10 million dollars? 242, we have more problems with our cabin cleaners than customers. They make minimum wage, and just dont give a damn. We tried the hook thing, but with 3 trash bags over my arm, I figure im doing ok..JT
 
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RE: Blue Water Diving

Wed Jun 20, 2001 4:15 am

Probabaly the worst I ever had to do was while i was working in Kotzebue for Markair, one of their 737's came in with the blue ice berg hanging off the tail. It had blown open the door and I couldn't relatch it. being about -20 outside that day (in feb), the iceberg wasn't going to melt by itself, so I had to stand underneath it with a herman nelson and take a blue juice shower while all the crap melted and I could shut the door. Told the capt. to write up the leak when he got back to anc, but the next night, the plane came out with exactly the same problem. Told the captain he was on his own and went back to bed. The CEO never called about that one either. hmmmmmm.....
 
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RE: Blue Water Diving

Wed Jun 20, 2001 4:29 am

We had a 737 come in with the same problem. It was warm outside, about 85, but we didnt have time to let it melt. I tried to find a source of water that would reach the ice. The only thing I found was a potable water servicing hose. As I was standing there, blasting my blue iceberg, the station GM came out screaming about what a horrible thing it was I was doing. He was worried that the hose would become contaminated, even though it was about 4 feet from the ice chunk. I asked for his suggestion on how to resolve the matter. He said just get a piece of tape, and tape the door closed, over the ice chunk. After explaining that this was not an acceptable fix, he became very irate. Rather than explain the legal problems involved in taping a door shut, I just said ok. After he stormed off to call my boss, I just finished hosing the ice off, and closed the door. Flight left on time, but with the left lav inop..JT
 
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RE: Blue Water Diving

Wed Jun 20, 2001 6:32 am

Forgot bout this one.. don't know how. I was on a Convair 580 as a flight mechanic and we had a charter with Ford Motor company to take 40 European journalists to Thompson, Manitoba. The 580 has the wash basin disabled because the tank on it was so much trouble. So, we left little disposable hand wipes in the lav for when people were done. Anyway, we were 1/2 way there and the f/a comes to the cockpit and tells us one of the pax had just washed his hands in the blue juice and came out looking for a paper towel to dry his stained blue to the elbows hands with. Most disgusting thing I have seen in a long long time. We all skipped dinner that night when we landed.
 
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RE: Blue Water Diving

Wed Jun 20, 2001 6:46 am

That is gross. How dumb can people be? Scary aint it? I watched a ramp guy doing the lavs on one of our ron planes. He was wearing a rainsuit, including pants and those really cool rubber boots, which he took extra time to tuck his rain pants into. As you know, there is a outer door, and the inner flapper door on the drain fitting. He opened the outer door, hooked up the hose and pulled the handle. Nothing happened. For some reason, he took off the hose, stood back and pulled the handle again, turning it to lock it open. Then he messed with the flapper door until it opened. As you can imagine, it was quite a mess. Funniest part was that the blue juice (among other things) almost completely filled up his boots. He looked like he was ready to cry. I dont blame him..JT
 
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RE: Blue Water Diving

Wed Jun 20, 2001 8:34 am

rampers crack me up man.. that's a good one.
 
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RE: Blue Water Diving

Wed Jun 20, 2001 8:44 am

Well, he was a new guy, just in from Newark. They have a contract company there to do the lavs. If he didnt know what he was doing, maybe he should have asked?. BTW, ever clear a clogged drain tube by pressurizing? You would be amazed at how fast a brown trout can move with a 7 or 8 psi differential behind it. Worlds first jet propelled trout. Maybe we should call the world record people?..JT
 
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RE: Blue Water Diving

Wed Jun 20, 2001 9:47 am

the funniest thing i saw with the rampies happend when one was showing off his driving skills on the honey wagon for a female flight attendent, he was zooming back and forth slamming the gear shift between forward and reverse, in the process of jarrring the honey wagon, the dump valve gave way, he surely impressed the f/a with how many gallans of lbue juice he could dump on a ramp.
 
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RE: Blue Water Diving

Wed Jun 20, 2001 9:55 am

I hope they made him clean it up too?..Jt
 
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RE: Blue Water Diving

Wed Jun 20, 2001 10:54 am

Tried that trick with the 580's. But they only make about 5 diff. So, sometimes she go, sometimes she no go, but make sure you hooked up tight or it make a big mess. LOL
 
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RE: Blue Water Diving

Wed Jun 20, 2001 11:08 am

JT8D yeah he had to clean it up and then they took his badge and escorted him off the property  Smile
 
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RE: Blue Water Diving

Wed Jun 20, 2001 11:26 am

The worst we had was a 1 liter water bottle thrown down the chute. It was a rear lav where the 4 lavs merged into a 'submarine' 50gal tank in the belly. We couldn't reach the bottle, so the only way to do it was to open the duct at the tank, pull it out, and get drenched. My buddy had brown trout down his shirt, I thought he was going to pass out. I nearly died laughing and he ran out of the plane screaming 'I got sh!t on my neck, I got sh!t on my neck!!!!' We have two 10-10's from AA that use the autodump system...it is junk, always problems. This past winter we averaged 3 of our 8 lavs inop on each plane each day...toilet diving has got to be the worst.
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RE: Blue Water Diving

Wed Jun 20, 2001 11:39 am

JT, speaking of pressurizing to blow out clogs, we had two that I remember. Usually we pressurize and blow the clog and trout onto the ramp, but this day my guys decided to do it with the turd hurse connected...I had the pleasure of driving up to the aircraft as the turd tank exploded...

Another one we did: Usually the clogs blow out by about 3.5psi diff., but we had a nasty problem with one lav. We had the dump valve open, two guys with a snake pushing on it. Well, she finally let go at 8.5 psi diff. I mean this sucker sealed the aircraft perfectly, when she let go, I was spinning the outflow valve wheel like my life depended on it. I thought the fugging lav was gonna get sucked out the bottom of the plane! Well, we ran downstairs to see our prize...monstrous diaper clog...and the inner layers of the lav ducts...ugg.
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RE: Blue Water Diving

Thu Jun 21, 2001 2:44 am

Had a big laugh reading  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

The strangest thing that I have removed from a toilet tank drain valve seat is a Dildo, Yepp! I didnt feel like trying to see if it still was working.
But the C/A flashed when I did show her why the toilet was u/s. Could it be that she had never seen one of those before??  Wink/being sarcastic

Other than that there are the usual stuff to find, soap dispencers,passport, valets, ice toungues.....
We found out that the catering man poured the icebox in the toilet if it was freasing outside, and he didnt check for contend inside before pouring.
Can I tell that no Ice in the drink for me!

At last here is a really funny one:
One of the lading crew that has the toilet servicing. Had got the brilliant idea that he would use raccazane on his home toilet as well (could be he loved that smell?) So he grabbed a paperbox of those small waterdissolving packets and went home. Opened the watertank on the toilet and poured all of them inside there. Then he flushed the toilet, the bowl overflowed and he had to clean his bathroom. And he even came to work and told us about it  Wink/being sarcastic  Wink/being sarcastic He has got the nickname BLUE now.

All from me- LOL

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RE: Blue Water Diving

Thu Jun 21, 2001 10:51 am

737LAME, I have never messed with those blue packets. Do they foam up when you drop them in water? I used to see them all the time, but I havnt seen one in a few years. I thought they were to be used where the lav could only be filled with water, and degerm fluid was not available? Anyone got a clue on this?..JT
 
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RE: Blue Water Diving

Thu Jun 21, 2001 11:07 am

We call em blue bombs and use them for a "freshen up" when the stench gets unbearable and we can't dump the lav/
 
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RE: Blue Water Diving

Thu Jun 21, 2001 11:09 am

I figured it was something like that because they only used them on long trips. Down to central/south america..JT
 
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RE: Blue Water Diving

Thu Jun 21, 2001 5:50 pm

Ahhh, the beauty of cargo ops: only 1 toilet and on half the fleet its a porta-pot or porta-pot device secured in a tray that is bolted to the floor.
 
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RE: Blue Water Diving

Thu Jun 21, 2001 9:06 pm

Hi JT

We use them if the Toilet servicing truck is out of Raccazane. Then they fill with water and have,
one small bag in each toilet. Thats enough for each toilet. And this will make your toilet water very blue. I believe the content of this bag is pure raccazane. It will not produce foam. It dissolves very quickly, put it in the toilet and press flush,and you will get instant blue water.

Air2gxs we used to have those buckets on the old F27-100 friendship, and once there was a full bucket and the on that was gonna empty it, skidded on the threshould, banged his head in the doorframe and where do you think the content went??? yepp all over the poor man.... yuakkk.
Murphy was probably having a finger on this incident..
 Wink/being sarcastic

By the way, the topic must look very promising for people outside the aviation spiderweb.. LOL

Have a nice day  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
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RE: Blue Water Diving

Thu Jun 21, 2001 9:50 pm

Watched this new hire fleet attendent pulll up. She was this very attractive 5 foot 4, petite thing. Anyway she backs that big old F-600 truck up to the forward service on a 737-400. She get up on the truck but the way it is sitting it is about 2 inches two short for her to reach without streaching.

Anyway this rampers walks up, Mr. Suave and asks if he can help. She says yes and he talkes the hose and hooks it up to the airplane. All the while flirting and being really chatting with here.

Anyway he hooks it up and tells her to hit it. The fluid starts to go and ploop....The hose disconnects out from the aircraft. Apparently the Ladies Man didn't hook it up right. So there he is derenched in blue fluid.
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RE: Blue Water Diving

Fri Jun 22, 2001 9:14 am

My buddy had replaced a servicing line in the forward lav. He needed to see if it was going to leak, so he asked me to yell down to the guy on the lav truck to put in about 3 gallons. As the truck started pumping, the blue juice sprayed all over the lav and my buddy. I told him that maybe he changed the wrong line. His only response was eat s***..JT
 
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RE: Blue Water Diving

Fri Jun 22, 2001 5:00 pm

Ever clear a dump chute by using the pressurization system. Saw someone do it once. Thought it was going to blow the hose apart. I'm sure that its happened before.
 
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RE: Blue Water Diving

Sat Jun 23, 2001 10:52 am

It will only hurt the hose if you use the hose. We just thought it was funny as hell, watching the "matter" fly across the ramp at transonic speed. Yes, its gross, and we probably could have got in trouble, but it was way past midnight and we needed some entertainment..JT
 
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RE: Blue Water Diving

Sun Jun 24, 2001 4:41 am

One night I had the unfortunate opportunity to dump a lav. Our lav driver was on break, and an aircraft on my gate needed to have lav service. Our lead made three of us draw straws, and I lost. But our lead made them watch and learn. As I was dumping the lav, the kept laughing at me, and my only response was to give 'em the finger and say "Shut the F**K up." That was my one and only time to have to do it, thank goodness. But my favorite lav story happened one day a few years ago on the gate next to mine. The lav driver had dumped the lav on an a/c and a decent amount of blue goo and misc. stuff spilled onto the ramp. Not having enough time before departure to clean it up, he went on his merry way over to our gate. We were all standing by the pillbox waiting for an inboard when he comes over and starts to laugh. He tells us about dumping some of the stuff on the ramp. That's not usually funny, except for right about that time on the gate next door, said aircraft was powering out and a newbie ramper was getting sprayed with the blue goo and misc. stuff that the lav driver spiled onto the ramp as the plane powered out. We were all on the ramp (the actually concrete, not the general location) for several minutes after it happened. Thankfully today's newer planes use potable water instead of the blue juice, but the blue juice has lots of comic potential.
 
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RE: Blue Water Diving

Sun Jun 24, 2001 5:33 am

dumping the aft lav on a DC-9 and messing up then doing powerback will always insure the wingwalkers get sprayed, since FL killed the blue ramp uniforms (smurf suits or janitors uniforms) for the much more professional polos, i hate to think what they will end up looking like

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