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Kai Tak Landing

Sun Jun 24, 2001 4:49 pm

this question may probably be outdated by now, but im really interested in kai tak international airport, hong kong. im really interested on how the pilot lines up the plane before the checkerboard, and what happens during the turn and the landing..... why is it that in the pictures posted in this site, the airplanes seem to be to the left of the runway before they touchdown? thanks a lot =)
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RE: Kai Tak Landing

Mon Jun 25, 2001 2:35 am

It was a purely visual approach- just as you would in a Cessna 152, aim for the touch down point!! You could cheat in visual conditions and fly left of the IGS for a smoother turn.

re Landing left, it's common for Capts to Land LEFT of the center line and the First Officer to land RIGHT.
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RE: Kai Tak Landing

Mon Jun 25, 2001 4:54 am

Was there an ils?

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RE: Kai Tak Landing

Mon Jun 25, 2001 5:30 am


Yep, Ils was aimed from 088Mag., and on final, a 47 degree left turn to the runway's true heading of 131mag.

In regrads to the orginal question, well, the second one anyway, the reason could be pilots don't bank the aircraft enough during the turn, and end up a little a little left of center line. Sometimes, they realize that during the turn, and will end up like this:

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RE: Kai Tak Landing

Mon Jun 25, 2001 5:37 pm

Ah the good old days!!! Seeing an SQ pilot fly the IGS with a 40kt tailwind in a typhoon, do 4 (FOUR!!) approaches then divert!! Seeing cargo planes land 45 degrees to the dentrline of the runway....near collisions with the tower...miscalculated heavyweight takeoffs from both Runway 13 and 31 (Scary!!).

I'm surprised that after all that, Kai Tak was a very safe airport with few incidents......CLK had a crash in the first year of operations!!!
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RE: Kai Tak Landing

Tue Jun 26, 2001 5:51 am

What would be procedure be in instrument meterological conditions, where you don't have visual reference to the runway? How would you judge the right turn after you disengage the AP on the IGS approach if you can't see the runway? I only flew into HKG once under those conditions, and it was when I was very young so I don't remember the specifics.
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RE: Kai Tak Landing

Tue Jun 26, 2001 11:30 am

Simple................if you still don't see the approach lights and the runway by the middle marker, it's a MANDATORY go-around. The standard Jeppersen's charts make it quite clear with the warning that "............failure to do so can lead to loss of terrain clearance".


RE: Kai Tak Landing

Tue Jun 26, 2001 12:35 pm

Arent you forgetting about the 2 ILS systems which brought you into the approach, the first one was aimed straight at the checkerboard, the second one lined up with the runway. The lead-in approach strobe lights showed you the turn between the two.

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