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Hourly Operating Costs- 732

Sun Dec 30, 2001 1:20 pm

Does anyone know what the hourly operating costs of the 737-200 are and would different versions of the JT8D affect the cost? Thanks for any info.

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yyz717
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RE: Hourly Operating Costs- 732

Mon Dec 31, 2001 2:01 am

Including cost of ownership (which wouldn't be that high anyway), I'd say about $2000/hr.

The heavier JT8D's would probably be assoc with heavier weight 732's. Op costs could be 5% higher but revenue generation oppy's would be greater as well.
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RE: Hourly Operating Costs- 732

Mon Dec 31, 2001 10:05 pm

Yyz717 It might be that I got that it wrong but are you telling me that with 2000$ you could actually get a B737 200 off the ground without any additional expences? sorry if I doubt about it but I personally rented a Learjet 30 at Flight safety for a training dedicated mission and I was charged 4200$ hourly (That included the instructor but I don't think he got a big slice of the cake)
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RE: Hourly Operating Costs- 732

Tue Jan 01, 2002 12:34 am

You asked for operating costs. Not for what they are sold at. Anyone renting out an aircraft will likely apply a 50-100% margin.

I used to work for an airline w 721/722. The hourly op cost was about $2500-2800. We used to offer the a/c for charters and used to charge about $5000/hr.

You cna be sure the actual op costs of that Lear 30 are about $1000-2200 or so depending on ownership costs. The rest is margin.

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RE: Hourly Operating Costs- 732

Tue Jan 01, 2002 1:37 am

Aviation Week magazine used to publish an annual report of operating costs of various aircraft as disclosed by a variety of operators. I don't know if they plan on publishing one this year.

I don't have a copy of one, but I seem to recall that the costs reported varied from around $1200 to $1800 per flight hour (not block hour). For perspective, this was about 5 years ago. The charts would also break down in cost per revenue seat-mile, but I don't recall any of those figures.

These costs varied by operator due to a number of differences in the way each carrier runs their operation, such as own or lease, size of fleet (spares support), and whether they do their own heavy maintenance or farm it out.

The costs reported included fuel, crew, maintenance reserve, depreciation, etc.

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RE: Hourly Operating Costs- 732

Tue Jan 01, 2002 2:38 am

Per DOT reports Average operating cost for the B737-200 as reported by US air carriers in 2000 was $2275.

Keep in mind that the above figure reflects the higher operating cost of several major US carriers. A more realistic would be $1987 as reported by a low cost operater in 2000.

Also remember these figures include the higher fuel cost in 2000 versus todays rates. You should easily be able to shave off another $150-200 based on todays low cost as fuel accounted for about 25% of the overall cost depending on the airline.


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RE: Hourly Operating Costs- 732

Wed Jan 02, 2002 1:26 am

Hey guys can you gimme the adress of any airline renting a 737 200 for 2000$ cos I'd love to fly one of those big birds?
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RE: Hourly Operating Costs- 732

Wed Jan 02, 2002 5:24 am

Thanks for all the info. Happy New Year

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RE: Hourly Operating Costs- 732

Sun Jan 06, 2002 6:26 pm

A few ACMI leases I have received.
1750 ph, min 265hrs per month
1500 ph, min 170hrs
2200 ph, min 170hrs

Costs vary with the age and engines of the planes.

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RE: Hourly Operating Costs- 732

Wed Jul 05, 2006 11:53 am

Quoting Mandala499 (Reply 8):
A few ACMI leases I have received.
1750 ph, min 265hrs per month
1500 ph, min 170hrs
2200 ph, min 170hrs

Hey I know this thread is old but where did you get these quotes??? Would it still be this cheap?
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RE: Hourly Operating Costs- 732

Wed Jul 05, 2006 2:28 pm

My God, this was from 2002...

Where did I get the quotes from? The leasing companies maybe?  Smile
There were a lot of bargains on the 732 in those days, but a lot of unscrupulous managers marking up those bargains! *DAMN!*

Right now? The only figure I can come up with is about the 1750 and 2000 USD / hr ACMI... this is as far as I remember using older frames and JT8D-15As on the lower end, and the -17Rs and younger frames on the upper end. The higher ones are far from their C-Checks, any lower from the 1750 has a C-check due soon, so expect costs creeping in from the downtime.

That's why until recently, the 732s are still popular... the cost per available seat km is dirt cheap! But, spare parts has been a problem over here recently...

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