Fedex & UPS Use Larger Planes

Fri Mar 15, 2002 6:49 pm

Why Dont companies like FedEx or UPS Use large Cargo planes? like Ilyushin Il-76TD or Antonov An-124-100 Ruslan or the GALLAXY I dint think i ever seen a FedEX or UPS jet come here lager then a airbus or a 767
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RE: Fedex & UPS Use Larger Planes

Fri Mar 15, 2002 7:12 pm

Fed-ex used to operate 747's, they got them when they sacked Flying Tigers. They will also lease them when they need the extra capacity.

UPS has a very large 747 fleet.

UPS just got MD-11's and FDX has been a big MD-11 operator for years.

Those military designed freighters are just too costly to run. This is because of sacrifices that where made to the efficency of the design, so that the aircraft could fullfill it's military mission.
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RE: Fedex & UPS Use Larger Planes

Sat Mar 16, 2002 8:49 am

and you really need an AN-124 or IL-76 to haul small package freight?

Could you imagine the fuel surcharge that would be needed to keep thoses beasts in fuel?

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RE: Fedex & UPS Use Larger Planes

Sat Mar 16, 2002 8:57 am

Plus its a Russian built aircraft, we will never buy a Russian built aircraft. If they were to buy an aircaft like that it would be a Lockheed C-5 or Boeing C-17.
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RE: Fedex & UPS Use Larger Planes

Sat Mar 16, 2002 9:13 am

Besides Soviet-phobia and the fact that the Il-76 has been banned from the US due to noise restrictions (or so they say Big grin ), there are actually more practical reasons for FedEx, UPS and others not to use the An-124 and the Il-76. For example, the fact that it takes more flight crew members (6 for the Ruslan!) to fly it=more money, unfortunately Soviet/CIS a/c, especially those designed for the military are not known for great fuel efficiency. Also, Soviet/CIS a/c don't have rollers on their floors, therefore it would force a carrier based on US and European a/c to use different containers on those a/c, or use forklifts (or the a/c's own cargo loading systems) to load and unload the freighters. I'd imagine that certification would also be somewhat of an obstacle.

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RE: Fedex & UPS Use Larger Planes

Sat Mar 16, 2002 10:39 am

as far as I know No one has any military transports other then the military for some reason, why I dont know, cost? not allowed to? dont see why it would be the second its not like a C-5 is dangerous for say me and you to own like a fighter would be.

RE: Fedex & UPS Use Larger Planes

Sat Mar 16, 2002 1:01 pm

I figured if the GOVERMENT used them Why dont those Cargo companies use them type too .But like you say the cost is up there for it to ever pan out.

I herd FEDEX and U.P.S. are merging.

They are going to call it FEDUP

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RE: Fedex & UPS Use Larger Planes

Sat Mar 16, 2002 1:21 pm

It's not for lack of trying. Lockheed tried marketing the C-141 as the L-300 in the mid-'60s. The C-141 still has an FAA Type Certificate, despite the fact that none have ever been owned by anyone other than the US Government.

Lockheed also tried selling the C-5 as the L-500. Pan Am had shown some interest, but the 747F made much more sense. More recently, McDonnell Douglas proposed a civilian version of the C-17 called the MD-17. It bombed for the same reason as the civil C-141 and C-5. The operating costs are simply too high.
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RE: Fedex & UPS Use Larger Planes

Mon Mar 18, 2002 11:28 am

As an aside to what Exnonrev said, Boeing is still considering marketing the C-17 as a BX-17 i think it is.

Anyway, on their website somewhere, dunno if there are any takers yet, still something they are kicking around......
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