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L1011 And A320 Takeoff Roll

Fri Apr 26, 2002 1:13 am

Hello, does anyone know how long a normal takeoff roll for an L1011-500 and an A320-200 is at 1000 MSL at standard temp with a 4 knot headwind?
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RE: L1011 And A320 Takeoff Roll

Fri Apr 26, 2002 8:34 am

The take off roll shall not exceed the length of the runway....Oldman
 
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RE: L1011 And A320 Takeoff Roll

Fri Apr 26, 2002 9:19 am


Airbus A320-200 , 214 version at mtow (74 tons) (max thrust) normal takeoff roll is 4000 feet, no headwind, at sea level, I see this happen daily at the airport were I work, Horta International Airport (LPHR).
The runway lenght is 5600 feet.


Lockeed I d´ont know, but I think that it is less than 7000 feet, depending in the thrust of the engines and the mtow version.

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RE: L1011 And A320 Takeoff Roll

Fri Apr 26, 2002 11:10 am

Well then Sushka, specify a takeoff weight for the big three engine Lockheed and will give an accurate answer...have all the numbers here. With over ten thousand command hours in the big bird, I should know...but hey if I don't, our Dir Ops (with over 15,000 hours in type) certainly should....
 
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RE: L1011 And A320 Takeoff Roll

Thu May 02, 2002 10:22 am

Check out this video clip of this Delta L-1011 departing Honolulu bound for LAX. Anyone want to estimate how much runway she used?

http://airside.paradise.net.nz/video/deltal1011honoluluto.wmv
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RE: L1011 And A320 Takeoff Roll

Thu May 02, 2002 11:36 pm

The L1011 (and DC 10) were reasonably sprightly, since they were designed to get in and out of La Guadia.
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RE: L1011 And A320 Takeoff Roll

Fri May 03, 2002 5:17 pm

Jhooper
I reckon she rotated after about 8500ft? Was quite a leisurely takeoff. As I cannot find any data for that runway, it's just a guess.
 
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RE: Cedarjet

Sat May 04, 2002 5:27 am

Oh Cedar they were great when lightly loaded like when they departed LGA. Let me tell you when you get a heavy 1011-100 is a dog and they use alot of runway just like that video demonstrates. LGA flight were minimal flts with light fuel loads.
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RE: L1011 And A320 Takeoff Roll

Mon May 06, 2002 10:30 am

Kinda of a side note here, but why don't they just extend the runway at LGA to a more reasonable length, say 9000ft? I'm not too familiar with the airport, but I believe the runways are build on piers, right? So couldn't those piers be extended?
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RE: L1011 And A320 Takeoff Roll

Mon May 06, 2002 2:05 pm

Jhooper, thanks for the vid. It's been a few years since I've heard that sound!
 
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RE: L1011 And A320 Takeoff Roll

Mon May 24, 2004 9:20 am

Imagine the takeoff roll for a flight to atlanta. That was about 50 some seconds of roll.
 
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RE: L1011 And A320 Takeoff Roll

Mon May 24, 2004 10:46 am

A good, pretty intuitive equation for calculating the approximate takeoff distance of an aircraft flying into a headwind is:

Takeoff distance = distance for zero wind X [(Vo - Vw) / Vo]²

...where Vo is the takeoff velocity with zero wind and Vw is the velocity of the headwind. Unfortunately, I only have takeoff distance figures for the 320 and L1011 at sea level, so I can't get you exactly what you want...

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RE: L1011 And A320 Takeoff Roll

Mon May 24, 2004 11:50 am

The longest take-off roll I can remember was on a Delta L-1011 operating DL17 DFW-HNL. We seemed to roll forever before finally rotating and lifting off.
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RE: L1011 And A320 Takeoff Roll

Mon May 24, 2004 1:14 pm

Wow, that was a pretty long takeoff roll!
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RE: L1011 And A320 Takeoff Roll

Mon May 24, 2004 2:52 pm

What a nice sound to hear again.

Only flew the DL L1011 once, never felt safer on a plane. Really felt like it was built like a damn tank.

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RE: L1011 And A320 Takeoff Roll

Tue May 25, 2004 7:54 am

DAirbus yes FLT 17 took alot of runway to get off as a matter of fact it was the flt/plane to watch if you wanted a long takeoff/slow climb if you were a spotter at DFW 2001 and earlier. It took a bit longer than the MD-11's bound for Tokyo or the 777's for Europe adn DC-10's bound for HNL. One of the last days it operated that flt it used just about all of 17R to lift.
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RE: L1011 And A320 Takeoff Roll

Tue May 25, 2004 6:23 pm

Well looking at a diagram of HNL, and guess-timating the location of rotation/ takeoff, it looks to be around 8000ft.
 
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RE: L1011 And A320 Takeoff Roll

Wed May 26, 2004 2:17 am

L1011-500, 1000msl, temp 13C, 5 knot headwind, 510,000 pounds (max weight), flaps 14, runway gradient zero, balanced field---

Ground run during takeoff, 8800 feet

Runway required, 10,900.

V1 151 Vr 160 V2 171
 
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RE: L1011 And A320 Takeoff Roll

Wed May 26, 2004 7:10 am

JHooper, by counting the shoulder markings on the runway (which I'm pretty sure are spaced at 100 feet), I got just about 8,000 feet. Had to estimate though when a taxiway got in the way. I believe that runway is around 12,000 feet (that's what I remember, and also the shoulder markings switched direction at about 6,000 feet).

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