fly_emirates
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Concord Doors, No Windows

Wed Sep 04, 2002 12:31 am

i noticed that the concord doors has no windows, now how could the crew give ok sign to open doors for gate agents, or assess emergency conditions in an event of an emergency
 
707CMF
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RE: Concord Doors, No Windows

Wed Sep 04, 2002 1:01 am

Maybe they use regular windows for that ?

Just a guess...
 
744rules
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RE: Concord Doors, No Windows

Wed Sep 04, 2002 5:12 am

On most airlines, doors are opened from the inside (so by cabin crew), after ground crew knocked on the door to let them know everything is ok (slide disarmed, depressurisation done )
 
fly_emirates
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RE: Concord Doors, No Windows

Wed Sep 04, 2002 5:19 am

744 rules,

the doors are not opened from the inside. cabin crew donot touch the doors except to arm and disarm, the gate agents will knock, then we will give them a thumb up sign to tell them its ok to open, then they will open the door from outside.
 
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RE: Concord Doors, No Windows

Wed Sep 04, 2002 5:47 am

Fly_emirates,not so in SAS.The ramp agent knocks on the door to signal that jetbridge is in proper position,and auto levelling is operating.Then the cabin crew opens door and confirms that all is O.K. for pax disembarkation.Then the "self loading cargo" leaves the plane.
In the Concorde with no windows in the door,there's no way the cabin crew would be able to signal that door is O.K. to open from the outside,accordingly,the cabin crew does this job themselves.
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RE: Concord Doors, No Windows

Wed Sep 04, 2002 9:00 pm

The procedure when I worked at GOT (Gothenburgh) was that the agent never opened the door!
This was always done by the crew.
Probably different procedures between airlines/airports (?)
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wilcharl
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RE: Concord Doors, No Windows

Thu Sep 05, 2002 12:11 pm

most airlines i have seen have proped the door signaling that the door was disarmed/girt bar removed.

My concern is without a window the cabin crew/pax would be unable to assess the outside conditions, potentialy opening an exit into a fire or other unsafe situation
 
Notar520AC
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RE: Concord Doors, No Windows

Thu Sep 05, 2002 2:02 pm

Keep in mind the Concorde's doors open outwards.

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Bellerophon
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RE: Concord Doors, No Windows

Fri Sep 06, 2002 4:03 am

Fly_emirates

Firstly, if you get the chance, take a close look at the forward doors on Concorde. Not at all easy to see, but each is fitted with an observation window.

Secondly, the cabin doors on Concorde are routinely opened from inside by the Cabin Crew, as are the cabin doors on many other aircraft and airlines worldwide.

Regards

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XXXX10
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RE: Concord Doors, No Windows

Sun Sep 08, 2002 11:10 pm

Concorde does have a very small window in the L1 door,probably there to allow the crew to see the leading edge in flight.

It is near the bottom of the door and would be no use for signaling the cabin crew.

I imagine that the gate agents just bang on the door!

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