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Freedom Rights....Fifth Freedom Rights?

Tue Oct 01, 2002 4:28 am

Hi All,

I wander if anyone could help me with this. I am frequently hearing about airlines wanting these 'Freedom Rights' especially 'Fifth Freedom Rights'. For example, I often here about airlines wanting fifth freedom rights in order to fly from KUL to BKK. Just an example.

Could somebody please break down these rights for me, and explain what each one allows airlines to do. Thanks in advance.


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RE: Freedom Rights....Fifth Freedom Rights?

Tue Oct 01, 2002 8:06 am

First Freedom : Overflight rights (eg. CO flying EWR-HKG overflying Canada)

Second Freedom : Refuel rights (eg. CX flying YYZ-HKG with a refuel stop in ANC)

Third/Fourth Freedom : Traffic rights to/from home country (eg. any international service)

Fifth Freedom : Traffic rights between two other countries as extension of service (eg. AI's service BOM-LHR-JFK carrying passengers LHR-JFK)

Sixth Freedom : Traffic rights between two other countries VIA home country (eg. AA carrying passengers EZE-MIA-LHR)

Seventh Freedom : Standalone service between two other countries (eg. hypothetical DL service YYZ-FCO)

Eighth Freedom : Cabotage aka Domestic service in another country (eg. hypothetical AC service JFK-LAX)
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RE: Freedom Rights....Fifth Freedom Rights?

Wed Oct 02, 2002 5:48 pm

Is their a cabotage agreement in the works between Canada and the US? How about relaxing ownership rules?

Relaxing ownership rules could allow greater flexibility in financing troubled carriers like USair and AirCanada. Just a hypothetical - this way, if a group from Toronto wants to save USair and get a majority stake , let them do it, darn it. Who's afraid of the Canadians?

Allowing cabotage means a single US-Canada air market kind of like we see in the EU. The benefits of this are obvious.

Who is standing in the way of this kind of cooperation? There must be somebody or it would have been done long ago. What am I missing?

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