Mr Spaceman
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767 Captain Must Type 100 Words A Minute?

Wed Oct 02, 2002 2:55 am

Hi guys.

In the September 2002 issue of FLYING magazine there's an article written by a Boeing 767 Captain who flies for American Airlines. The article is about "cockpit automation". He mentions the 3 IRSs (inertial reference systems), the 3 autopilots, the 2 flight management computers (FMCs), autothrottles, autobrakes, etc, etc.

He states that he likes to hand-fly the 767, but by virtue of the design of the airplane it is necessary to use the automation features in order to program a lot of information into the computers.

Then he states that "typing 100 words a minute is a prerequisite for a 767 captain".

My question to you gentlemen is...Why does a pilot of a 767 need to prove that he's able to type 100 words a minute before he can become a Captain?

My girlfriend is an office manager and types around 100+ words a minute. When she hits a keyboard there's almost smoke coming off her fingers! Why would the pilot of an airliner need to have this level of typing skills when programing the cockpit's computers?

Also, does the amount of words per minute required by a Captain depend on the size of his aircraft? For example: Does the Captain of a DC-9 only need to be able to type 38 words a minute?

Any info about this apparent typing prerequisite for an airline Captain would be greatly appreciated, and can you let me know if this only aplies to 767 Captains.

I find this subject rather funny.


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Illini_152
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RE: 767 Captain Must Type 100 Words A Minute?

Wed Oct 02, 2002 4:28 am

Just a guess here, but that might be a literary device called "hyperbole" (and knowing my spelling level, I probibly misspelt that too) What he's trying to convey to the reader is that you have to enter a lot of info into the computers quickly.

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(besides, WHO could type 100 wpm on those keypads; take a look, its not a QWERTY keypad...)

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RE: 767 Captain Must Type 100 Words A Minute?

Wed Oct 02, 2002 6:27 am

In other words, he was being sarcastic.

I read that article a few months back and can remember thinking the 100-words-a-minute thing seemed kind of weird. I don't know very many pilots who can type that fast.

Illini: Agreed, I can't type worth beans on those alphabetical keypads. You'd think it'd be easier, wouldn't ya? haha.
 
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RE: 767 Captain Must Type 100 Words A Minute?

Wed Oct 02, 2002 6:48 am

hahaha One of my best friends is a 757/767 capt. for American, and I have to wait forever while he types replies on AIM... I'd rate it at maybe 20WPM. What's the authors name?
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RE: 767 Captain Must Type 100 Words A Minute?

Wed Oct 02, 2002 9:27 am

Man, if that was the case, I'd be flying 747's at 18 years old...
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RE: 767 Captain Must Type 100 Words A Minute?

Wed Oct 02, 2002 9:54 am

I read that also, and I am fairly confident he was being a little sarcastic. I was once allowed to help program an A320 FMC (Under very close observation mind you) and there is absolutly no way you could, or would need to, type 100 wpm on that thing. You really never type full words and it is really more of a "push a couple buttons, wait.......push a couple more....." type of thing.
 
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RE: 767 Captain Must Type 100 Words A Minute?

Wed Oct 02, 2002 9:59 am

Here with you friends, I type with 2 fingers, occasionally 4 of them...
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In the cockpit... forget it, I use 1 finger...
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I am a 10 wpm captain on 747, my first officer takes (ATC) shorthand and the flight engineer is a certified accountant... as to be able to fly, we do not know anymore... when the amount of paperwork will exceed the max certified takeoff weight we will be in troubles (getting close to that weight in these days)...
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RE: 767 Captain Must Type 100 Words A Minute?

Wed Oct 02, 2002 1:26 pm

Haha, now I have even more respect for your long, detailed answers.  Big grin
 
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RE: 767 Captain Must Type 100 Words A Minute?

Thu Oct 03, 2002 7:21 am

Reminds me of my first FAA Type Rating Ride as 767 FO. You do everything from preflight thru rejected TO from left seat, then perform remainder of the check-ride from right seat. During taxi-out the checkairman issued a new revised clearance. I tried to make the changes in the FMC, but was having difficulty --right hand types while left hand steers. Finally I just STOPPED the airplane, set the parking brake, reached over and input the changes using my left hand. A good laugh for all. After just a couple of weeks I'd learned to type with my left hand, but not my right.  Wink/being sarcastic
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RE: 767 Captain Must Type 100 Words A Minute?

Thu Oct 03, 2002 11:07 am

Boeing 767-200: 80 words per minute, 200ER: 90 words per minute, 300: 100 words per minute, and the new 400, 110 words per minute.

Source: Flightsafety regional.

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RE: 767 Captain Must Type 100 Words A Minute?

Thu Oct 03, 2002 7:02 pm

I've heard that joke about FMC equiped airplanes .I guess what they mean is pilots complain because of too much automation and not using convensional or manuall skills.But on the other hand in airline flying,after the flight engineers are out of the cockpit all paperwork is now done by the First Officer.I sometimes think that if I leave my job I can work AS a secretary.As Skipper said I sometimes can not believe the amount of the paperwork in the cockpit.
AAR90,what you did was logical I think since in that type rating exam you have to demonstrate both your FMC skills and and also its good airmanship to stop taxiing for safety. In my company when the capt.taxies the airplane he doesnt touch the FMC he asks FO to make necessary changes if needed.
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RE: 767 Captain Must Type 100 Words A Minute?

Fri Oct 04, 2002 9:50 am

DAMN!!!!!, How many WPM on the 747, and the A380??
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Mr Spaceman
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RE: 767 Captain Must Type 100 Words A Minute?

Fri Oct 04, 2002 11:49 pm

Hi guys.

Sorry for my delay in responding. I had to leave town for a few days.

"WOW" did that comment about 100 words a minute go right over my head "As a Joke!!!" I can't believe I fell for that one.

The author was being very sarcastic in his comments at the start of the article about how he replies to some people who after learning he's an airline Captain say things like "So you don't actually fly, you push the autopilot button, right?" To which the Captain's favorite response is "You're right, we do just push a button. It's the one in the middle of the instrument panel called, "Airplane On / Airplane Off."

The author then says "all right, I'll get serious" and continued to explain the 767's guidance systems, etc. That's when he mentioned the 100 words a minute prerequisite...so I thought he was still being serious. Holly Smokes, I must have been tired when I read this article, which isn't that long.

>> Accidentally, the authors name is Les Abend. He's a Boeing 767 Captain for American Airlines.

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