dragogoalie
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Pilots Getting More Kidney Stones Post 9/11?

Wed Oct 02, 2002 12:46 pm

This evening our school had two guest speakers. One was a pilot from NWA, and the other from AA. At the end of their presentation on what its like being an airline pilot, they were answering questions. Someone brought up the question about how 9/11 had changed their job. They said it had changed it a whole lot, one way was that pilots are getting 30% more kidneystones (I think thats the number he said). The cause of this is the increased cockpit security. Even leaving the flight deck to use the lav is too complicated, so many pilots make it a point not to drink as much fluids, thus making it easier for kidney stones to form. Just found this kinda interesting and thought I'd point it out. Mabye it'll save a pilot from getting a kidney stone or something  Big grin

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RE: Pilots Getting More Kidney Stones Post 9/11?

Thu Oct 03, 2002 12:17 am

I'll quote B747skipper on this from another current thread:

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Yyz717 - you mention UV - never heard of that, you mean ozone instead...?
The only thing I know very bad in airplanes, is that dry air conditioned air... dehydrates your body to extremes... you need to drink a lot... and need that beauty cream for the skin of your face, unless you want to look like an old apple (these flight attendants have tons of facial creams in their bags)...
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I'd drink the same amount of fluids if I were an airline pilot. Part of the job is being alert isn't it? So you can't be dehydrated especially during some of the busy times of the flight. That's just my opinion.

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RE: Pilots Getting More Kidney Stones Post 9/11?

Thu Oct 03, 2002 12:28 am

Dragogoalie--

I missed that presentation; how'd it go? Who were the guest speakers? What did they talk about?

Thanks,

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RE: Pilots Getting More Kidney Stones Post 9/11?

Thu Oct 03, 2002 12:46 am

Very important to stay well-hydrated in this job. I will continue to drink a lot of water because ultimately my health depends on it. Using the toilet in-flight doesn't bother me at all, why should it? No one is expecting us to stay crammed up in that f/d for 9 hours all night on our way from CUN-LGW!

I enjoy stretching my legs, chatting to the crew in the rear galley, and normally end up using the toilet whilst I am back there. By the same token, the Captain will normally do the same whilst I keep watch up front for 15 minutes or so....

Not drinking because you don't want to use the toilet (which is normally right behind the f/d anyway) is a bit silly in my view.
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RE: Pilots Getting More Kidney Stones Post 9/11?

Thu Oct 03, 2002 12:55 am

AA_Cam, I dont remember their names, but the NWA captain lives here in GFK and is based out of MSP on the 757, and the other guy was a 757/767 training pilot for TWA/AA in St. Louis. It was pretty interesting, they just talked about what the job is like and answered any questions that people had.The guy from NWA said that you have to be prepared to do whatever you need to in order to build time. He said he even flew a few body bags around in an unpressurised airplane. He said that when you decend, their blood starts to boil making them move around a little bit. Kinda creephy.

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RE: Pilots Getting More Kidney Stones Post 9/11?

Thu Oct 03, 2002 3:59 am

FYI, from what I remember (so anyone please feel free to correct me, I won't be offended), El Al with their tight security has lavs installed in their cockpits for just this very reason. Makes sense, especially for El Al, maybe other airlines will consider this. Obviously Boeing has this as an option if they provide El Al with it.

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RE: Pilots Getting More Kidney Stones Post 9/11?

Thu Oct 03, 2002 7:14 am

>...one way was that pilots are getting 30% more kidneystones (I think thats the number he said).

Wonder what "study" he was referring to since no known study has been published since 9/11/01.

>...so many pilots make it a point not to drink as much fluids,

I just adjusted _when_ I drink the fluids. Highly doubtful the true long-haul guys can do the same.

What's changed? Philosophy. I used to be of the mindset that I would do anything/everything in order to protect/take care of my passengers. Now everybody and everything is secondary to protecting me. Easy to do when at work, but a major stress factor away from work [whenever folks want to talk about...].
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