gigneil
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MD-10 Vs DC-10 Vs MD-11

Mon Dec 09, 2002 2:48 pm

Hi all-

I was reading a Honeywell study about their FANS systems, and it mentioned the MD-11 and MD-10 as compatible Boeing aircraft. It also excluded the DC-10.

Can someone tell me what happens to a DC-10 when it gets converted to an MD-10?

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RE: MD-10 Vs DC-10 Vs MD-11

Mon Dec 09, 2002 3:20 pm

Basically... take a 3 crew airplane with normal dial instruments.. and make it into a modern 2 crew plane with FMS's, full glass cockpit with PFD, ND, and EICAS and alot more automation- i believe the flight guidance system is basically teh same as the MD-11's too.
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gigneil
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RE: MD-10 Vs DC-10 Vs MD-11

Mon Dec 09, 2002 3:36 pm

Hmm. Cool.

Are DC-10s really so valuable they needed all this extra attention?

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RE: MD-10 Vs DC-10 Vs MD-11

Tue Dec 10, 2002 8:23 am

Hi Gigneil,

I'm sure this conversion is very expensive, *but* when you weight all benefits you'll have with it, it's perfectly payable!

- One man less on the cockpit (one income less at the end of the month)
- Less maint. (Glass cockpit's are much more easy to work than old "steam gauged" ones)
- More automation = less crew work = more time for the crew "watch" the aircraft do its job = more safety
- great integration with the MD-11 (I ever heard that a same crew is able to fly the MD-10 and MD-11 - same type rating)

So, if you have a big DC-10 fleet (like FDX), it's perfectly payable. Needless to say too that's cheaper than buy a MD-11!!!!


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gigneil
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RE: MD-10 Vs DC-10 Vs MD-11

Tue Dec 10, 2002 6:47 pm

I read a few articles about the great integration with the MD-11, actually, and there are a lot of people very concerned by it.

Apparently the MD-11's handling characteristics are so drastically different from the MD-10s that many people consider it a safety risk. Much having to do with handling characteristics at landing.

They say it'd be safe for an MD-11 pilot to fly an MD-10, but that flying an MD-10 hardly prepares one for flying an MD-11 and that it

a) either should be a different rating or
b) airlines with both should keep the pilot pools separate.

What do people in this forum think?

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