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Only 4600ft Of LGA Runway 4 In Use Tonight

Sat Dec 14, 2002 2:05 pm

While listening to LGA Atis tonight they said that runway 4 approach was in use. After that they said that only 4600ft was operational tonight. I was thinking....could the 757's or 767's land? Would they be diverted to either JFK or EWR?

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RE: Only 4600ft Of LGA Runway 4 In Use Tonight

Sat Dec 14, 2002 3:44 pm

I'm sure B757/767s can land with 4,600 feet length with no significant problems. Well expect to brake harder!  Smile
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RE: Only 4600ft Of LGA Runway 4 In Use Tonight

Sat Dec 14, 2002 4:12 pm

Is it one of those "Land and Hold Short Operation"?
 
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RE: Only 4600ft Of LGA Runway 4 In Use Tonight

Sat Dec 14, 2002 5:03 pm

No, that wouldn't be on ATIS. Maybe mention of LAHSO going on, but they wouldn't limit the available length of a runway just for LAHSO. There was probably construction or something going on.

Land and Hold Short Ops (LAHSO) is optional. ATC can clear you to LAHS before some runway, but the PIC can reject this. This would result in either one plane going around if both are landing, or either holding the plane waiting to take-off on teh crossing runway or sending the landing plane around. Pilots are not required to accept LAHS clearances. It doesn't matter if there's not enough runway, the pilot isn't confident he will be able to touch down in time to stop before the LAHS point, or he just doesn't feel like it. Pilots do not have to accept it.
 
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RE: Only 4600ft Of LGA Runway 4 In Use Tonight

Sat Dec 14, 2002 5:06 pm

No mention in the NOTAMs.
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RE: Only 4600ft Of LGA Runway 4 In Use Tonight

Sat Dec 14, 2002 9:15 pm

A 762/ER would have to be about 20000lb (~30000lb ER) below max landing weight to land there, some headwind will probably make that less.

763 25000lb, ER 45000lb.


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