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747's Into Airports With Short Runways

Sun Mar 23, 2003 8:32 pm

Are there any SCHEDULED Boeing 747 flights into airports whose longest runway is LESS than 7,000ft?
 
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RE: 747's Into Airports With Short Runways

Mon Mar 24, 2003 8:21 am

St. Marten (SXM)? I'm not sure of the length, but I've heard its mighty short, and there are a number of widebody, including 747, flights scheduled.
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RE: 747's Into Airports With Short Runways

Mon Mar 24, 2003 8:25 am

Far as I know there never has been such a schedule.
 
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RE: 747's Into Airports With Short Runways

Mon Mar 24, 2003 8:45 am

I believe SXM is 7000 ft. long give or take a few hundred feet...when 747's operated out of there, they usually headed to another island with a longer runway to top off tanks before heading across the pond...

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RE: 747's Into Airports With Short Runways

Mon Mar 24, 2003 3:29 pm

Hobart International airport has a runway which is only 2200 metres long which is about 7,000ft and get's quite a lot of heavy traffic including AN-124's,747's,A340's and 767's. Another one i can think of is Coolangatta airport in QLD which has a runway only 2042 metres long but routinely has 767 traffic.
 
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RE: 747's Into Airports With Short Runways

Tue Mar 25, 2003 10:40 am

Friends -
SXM has a 7535 feet runway...
As USAFHummer mentioned, the 747s operate out of SXM to other Carribean airports (to drop some other passengers as well) then refuel for the flight back to Europe... Unless say, a 9,000 feet runway is available (better, make it 10,000 feet) - there is nothing much that can be done for a heavily loaded 747 to fly full payload with a lot of fuel...
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RE: 747's Into Airports With Short Runways

Tue Mar 25, 2003 10:56 am

In the past Braniff used to fly their pumpkin 747s from Love Field and it has runways in the 7 thousand foot range.
 
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RE: 747's Into Airports With Short Runways

Wed Mar 26, 2003 10:56 am

Isn't the AF fight into SXM non-stop now, with A340s? At least it used to be not too long ago. . .
 
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RE: 747's Into Airports With Short Runways

Wed Mar 26, 2003 11:52 am

To add to BA skipper neither can a loaded down: L1011-100,DC-10,MD-11,A340 or even 727-200 operate from anything under 9,000-10,000 feet safely.
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RE: 747's Into Airports With Short Runways

Wed Mar 26, 2003 12:22 pm

Yes, the SXM-CDG flights are nonstop both ways.

That's got to be scary as all hell... watching an A343 attempt to get off of a runway barely longer than 7000ft!! Wow! Talk about payload penalty  Laugh out loud
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RE: 747's Into Airports With Short Runways

Wed Mar 26, 2003 6:10 pm

Wellington International (NZWN) has a 1935 Metre (6348 Feet) runway aligned 16/34 with high ground to the north and no safety areas at either end.

We used to see regular QF 747SP service as well as NZ and QF 767 service.
Unusual heavies have included a UA 747-100 diverted from Auckland and a BA 777 Royal Flight though that one was obviously VERY lightly loaded.
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RE: 747's Into Airports With Short Runways

Fri Mar 28, 2003 12:58 am

In the past Braniff used to fly their pumpkin 747s from Love Field and it has runways in the 7 thousand foot range.

13R/31L at Love has an 8800 foot runway....
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RE: 747's Into Airports With Short Runways

Sat Mar 29, 2003 2:38 am

What about BA 747's into SAN?

Not sure how long the runway is, but i assume it's short.
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RE: 747's Into Airports With Short Runways

Sat Mar 29, 2003 4:37 am

A fully loaded 727-200 also needs 9,000-10,000 feet of runway for a safe takeoff?
 
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RE: 747's Into Airports With Short Runways

Sat Mar 29, 2003 6:15 am

I think the 744 into SAN went to PHX first, but now its changed to a 777 direct.
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RE: 747's Into Airports With Short Runways

Sat Apr 12, 2003 11:29 pm

I think Braniff had moved to DFW before they got their 747s; so I don't think they ever operated out of Love Field.

Anyone remember when a United DC10 landed at Washington National? Low on fuel, although I don't know why they didn't divert somewhere else, DC ain't exactly Easter Island. Anyway, a UA DC10 definitely went into National, flew out again the next day empty by a UA test pilot. I've never seen a picture but I would very much like to if anyone knows anything about it.
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RE: 747's Into Airports With Short Runways

Sun Apr 13, 2003 4:29 am

I just received my May/June Airliners magazine yesterday. It features an article on SAN.
Their runway is 9,400 ft long with a 1,810 foot displaced threshold. The British 744 stopped in PHX. On March 25, 2001 British 772 non-stops went to Gatwick. In October 2002 it switched to Heathrow.
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RE: 747's Into Airports With Short Runways

Sun Apr 13, 2003 4:44 am

Braniff definitely flew their 747 out of Love Field to HNL. It was flight 501 using N601BN.
Here is a photo of Braniff's 747 at Love Field: http://braniffpages.com/1965/1965.html
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RE: 747's Into Airports With Short Runways

Sun Apr 13, 2003 5:53 am

747s sometimes land on runway 11/29 (crosswind) at EWR, Newark's 11/29 is about 6,600 ft long.


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