jhooper
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Meigs Class D Airspace

Wed Apr 02, 2003 9:50 am

Is the Chicago Meigs Class D Airspace still active, or can I now operate within this airspace without contacting ATC?
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RE: Meigs Class D Airspace

Wed Apr 02, 2003 10:21 am

From what I understand, the field is closed, but the tower is open and the airspace is the same as it was before hand. It is on the ATIS, you have to contact inorder to transition the airspace.

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RE: Meigs Class D Airspace

Wed Apr 02, 2003 10:28 am

Is that Class-D airspace "D" as in "Daley"? I'm surprised the arrogant SOB hasn't renamed it for himself...
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jhooper
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RE: Meigs Class D Airspace

Wed Apr 02, 2003 1:50 pm

How could the airspace still be Class D if the airport is closed? Can someone post exactly what the ATIS is saying right now?

OPNLguy,

Haha, that's pretty funny. Didn't think of it that way. I guess Daley thinks he owns the airspace, huh?
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RE: Meigs Class D Airspace

Wed Apr 02, 2003 2:00 pm

Is that Class-D airspace "D" as in "Daley"? I'm surprised the arrogant SOB hasn't renamed it for himself...

He is quite arrogant. I'm not sure what is happening to the airspace, but there is a temporary No-Fly-Zone around Chicago...the very excuse Daley used to launch his "Meigs-Krieg".

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RE: Meigs Class D Airspace

Wed Apr 02, 2003 7:29 pm

yup, the entire area is a no-fly zone. Guess it will become part of O'Hare class B soon.
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RE: Meigs Class D Airspace

Thu Apr 03, 2003 2:14 am

The TFR is only over downtown and didn't effect operations in and out of CGX.

There is talk of doing the pattern at CGX with a gaggle of airplanes to protest the closure. I am sure that the controllers won't mind since soon they will be out of a job in Chicago.
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RE: Meigs Class D Airspace

Thu Apr 03, 2003 6:47 am

>>>There is talk of doing the pattern at CGX with a gaggle of airplanes to protest the closure.

Better not; Mayor Daley might have some Patriots he's not telling anyone about, or maybe the Chicago police/EMS helos have Sidewinders....

(I fully agree with the comments of the official from a city adjacent to Chicago in which he said he didn't think Mayor Daley was "stable"...)
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RE: Meigs Class D Airspace

Thu Apr 03, 2003 4:10 pm

Your best bet would be to tune in Meigs ATIS and see what it says. I would imagine if the one runway is closed then the tower is still closed. But I do not know if they have closed the helipads or not, so the tower may still be open for those...
 
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RE: Meigs Class D Airspace

Thu Apr 03, 2003 4:34 pm

The tower may not close just yet, as early as today the aircraft have been allowed to depart using the taxiway as a runway.
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RE: Meigs Class D Airspace

Mon Apr 07, 2003 9:54 am

According to these NOTAMs, the Meigs Tower has been closed and Class D Airspace has been removed.


CGX 03/003 CGX SEE CHICAGO ARTCC 3/2290 WITH EFFECT FROM OR EFFECTIVE FROM
0303221700

CGX 04/012 CGX TOWER CLOSED PERMANENT WITH EFFECT FROM OR EFFECTIVE FROM
0304042030

CGX 04/014 CGX WEATHER REPORT NOT AVAILABLE WITH EFFECT FROM OR EFFECTIVE FROM
0304050154

CGX 04/016 CGX AIRPORT CLOSED PERMANENT WITH EFFECT FROM OR EFFECTIVE FROM
0304051405

CGX 04/017 CGX CLASS D SURFACE AREA CLOSED PERMANENT
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RE: Meigs Class D Airspace

Tue Apr 08, 2003 2:00 pm

I'd like to make an interesting observation about the downtown Chicago TFR (Temporary Flight Restriction). If you look at the graphic, you'll see the area this TFR affects. The interesting thing is that this TFR is only prohibiting flights below 3000ft AGL in this area. Well, I wouldn't want to operate below 2800ft AGL anyway in this area to provide clearance in accordance with Part 91. This TFR is totally unnecessary because law abiding pilots aren't a threat, and a terrorist won't be stopped by it anyway.




Text of the TFR

3/2290 IL.. FLIGHT RESTRICTION CHICAGO, IL. EFFECTIVE 0303221700 UTC UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE, PURSUANT TO 14 CFR SECTION 99.7, SPECIAL SECURITY INSTRUCTIONS, EXCEPT FOR MEDEVAC, LAW ENFORCEMENT, RESCUE/RECOVERY, EMERGENCY EVACUATION AND FIRE FIGHTING OPERATIONS, ALL VFR FLIGHT OPERATIONS ARE PROHIBITED WITHIN AN AREA BEGINNING ON THE LAKE MICHIGAN SHORE LINE (415232N/873658W OR THE CHICAGO O'HARE /ORD/ VOR/DME 115.4 DEGREE RADIAL/14.6 DME), THEN WEST VIA THE EISENHOWER EXPRESSWAY TO THE INTERSECTION OF THE DAN RYAN EXPRESSWAY (415232N/873844W OR THE ORD 118 DEGREE RADIAL AT 13.4 DME) THEN NORTH VIA THE DAN RYAN/KENNEDY TO THE INTERSECTION OF ASHLAND AVENUE (415454N/874004W OR ORD 110.2 DEGREE RADIAL AT 11.5 DME) THEN NORTH VIA ASHLAND TO THE INTERSECTION OF IRVING PARK ROAD (415716N/874010W OR ORD 098.6 DEGREE RADIAL AT 10.7 DME) THEN EAST VIA IRVING PARK TO LAKE MICHIGAN SHORELINE (415718/873828W OR ORD 097.4 DEGREE RADIAL AT 12 DME) THEN SOUTH VIA THE SHORELINE EXCLUDING OLIVE PARK AND NAVY PIER TO THE POINT OF BEGINNING AT AND BELOW 3000 FEET AGL UNLESS AUTHORIZED BY ATC. JEFF ULLOM, (847) 608-5618, IS THE POINT OF CONTACT. ELGIN TRACON, (847) 304-9368, IS THE FAA COORDINATION FACILITY. WIE UNTIL UFN
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