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All Flight Controls Through The Yoke?

Mon Jun 16, 2003 11:18 am

Please excuse my ignorance, but with today's technology, could ALL flight controls go through the yoke, hence eliminating the rudder pedals? For example: a game that only uses a joystick.
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jhooper
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RE: All Flight Controls Through The Yoke?

Mon Jun 16, 2003 12:14 pm

It's certainly possible, with FBW.
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RE: All Flight Controls Through The Yoke?

Mon Jun 16, 2003 12:40 pm

You don't need FBW to accomplish that, just take a look at the 1930's design Aircoupe. It had a pedal on the floor - for the brakes. They are still a common site at mmost general aviation airports.


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RE: All Flight Controls Through The Yoke?

Tue Jun 17, 2003 12:43 am

That's all just wonderful (auto-coordination or linked controls) unless you want to do a crosswind landing.

It would be nasty trying a crosswind landing with the rudder controlled by some sort of twistable yoke. Just the thought of that is awful to someone born ahead of the nintendo generation.

...and then you still need separate brake pedals for differential braking (although this could be mapped into an electronic tiller).
 
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RE: All Flight Controls Through The Yoke?

Tue Jun 17, 2003 4:41 am

Aaron,
I guess that the old principle would apply...

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RE: All Flight Controls Through The Yoke?

Tue Jun 17, 2003 11:26 am

It's not even necessary to have a yoke, but pilot insist on having one!
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RE: All Flight Controls Through The Yoke?

Tue Jun 17, 2003 4:14 pm

IIRC, many Ercoupes were retrofitted with pedals. Simplicity is fine, but there has to be limits...

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RE: All Flight Controls Through The Yoke?

Fri Jun 20, 2003 9:48 pm

FredT,
You're correct - many Aircoupes / Ercoupes were retrofitted with rudder pedals; however they still were steered on the ground with the yoke. For a while, all US pilots getting their initial license in a 2-control Aircoupe had the restriction - limited to 2-control aircraft only - on their certificate. It's along the same lines as those who get their multi-engine ratings in Cessna Skymasters or most military fighters - their licenses are restricted to "Center-line thrust" only.

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