JetRanger2000
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FAA Red Tape

Sat Jun 28, 2003 2:31 pm

I've like to hear people's opinion on how bad (or good) the red tape is with the FAA. The one pilot I talked to said it makes tasks like changing a tire take longer.
 
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RE: FAA Red Tape

Sat Jun 28, 2003 3:23 pm

Fortunately, I've never really had to deal with it. My dealings with the FAA have been pretty smooth. But if you're to get into any kind of trouble with them, I hear it can be an absolute nightmare.
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RE: FAA Red Tape

Sat Jun 28, 2003 3:41 pm

I know a guy who blew a turbo in his Navion in 2000. Replacing it, he instead opted to put another turbo on it than what it was certified with -- one from the Mooney TLS. He's been through more red tape than I have ever seen, his airplane is just now experimental, with full certification very far in the future.
 
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RE: FAA Red Tape

Sat Jun 28, 2003 9:07 pm

POI and PMI's are funny things.

If you get a good one, they can make you lives pretty easy.

Get one that doesn't like you and they single handedly can run you out of business.
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RE: FAA Red Tape

Sun Jun 29, 2003 5:49 am

>>>The one pilot I talked to said it makes tasks like changing a tire take longer.

That's a pretty general statement and thus difficult to comment on. Longer because of too much paperwork? Longer becuase of -any- paperwork at all?

The FAA folks I've dealt with in my 20+ years in the biz have been real human beings like myself, and not the bureaucratic and horned creatures that some folks believe them to be. There are horror stories that make the rounds, and not having any first-hand knowledge of the particulars of any of the situations, it's hard to have an opinion. That said, someone within the FAA also brought us the Bob Hoover affair, which was a major injustice..

Overall, I'd say they're OK, with a few bad apples, just like the rest of humanity...
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RE: FAA Red Tape

Sun Jun 29, 2003 7:29 am

The fact that air travel in North America is so safe tells me that all the red may be worth it.

You can't ever equate changing a tire on an airplane to changing a tire on a car. Apples and Oranges....
 
JetRanger2000
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RE: FAA Red Tape

Sun Jun 29, 2003 12:57 pm

I do agree, there's some good red tape in place in our goverment.
The pilot I worked mostly with charter airlines, and flown mostly 734s. He said getting people to sign off on paperwork was a problem, regardless of what airport he was at.
 
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RE: FAA Red Tape

Sun Jun 29, 2003 2:53 pm

Most of the problems seems to come about when one inspector leaves and another one takes his place.

Every one of them have different things that they emphasizes or feel uncomfortable, so you end up rewriting a lot of stuff when your guy retires.
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