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ATC Talk, Do I Have It Down?

Wed Jul 16, 2003 12:08 pm

I've searched down a couple of threads already on the issue and am just looking to expound. From my flights in classes C and D airspace and tuning in to the cockpit on a recent UA flight, I pretty much have decided to execute all the following during each scenario. Tell me if I am right or wrong:

Before entering arrival airspace or crossing through:
1) XXX tower
2) Aircraft type and identification
3) Position or distance/azimuth and altitude
4) Intentions, landing or flying enroute to XXX
5) with information whatever
6) wait for instructions

If airspace is busy (before entering):
1) XXX tower
2) State A/C type & N#
3) wait for "go ahead XXX"
4) go to three and four above
5) wait for instructions

Ground Clearence:
1) XXX clearence delivery (or just "clearence")
2) Callsign
3) where parked
4) intentions, such as taxiing to X point or departing whichever direction or remaining in pattern
5) state current information
6) wait for clearence or instructions

Tower before departure:
1) XXX tower
2) Callsign
3) Taxiway plus "ready to depart rnwy 'xx'"
4) State current information
5) wait for instructions

to cross active rnwy on ground:
1) XXX ground
2) Callsign
3) "to cross rnwy 'xx' at taxiway x"
4) wait for clearence

to depart rnwy anywhere else but full length or where instructed:
1) XXX ground
2) Callsign
3) "requesting to depart rnwy 'xx' from taxiway x"
4) wait for clearence
5) [go to tower before takeoff with new taxiway]

Do I pretty much have the concept, or am I critically off in certain areas that might throw the equilibrium of communications off? Thanks in advance for feedback.

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RE: ATC Talk, Do I Have It Down?

Wed Jul 16, 2003 12:20 pm

Sounds about right to me. Now just memorize those flight plan forms and the proper Pirep format and you'll be set (hehehehe). Then there are instrument calls (routing clearances, approach clearances, hold calls, reporting points). Also, don't forget position calls at uncontrolled fields.

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RE: ATC Talk, Do I Have It Down?

Wed Jul 16, 2003 12:40 pm

The basic format in any radio communication with atc is:

1) Who you're calling
2) Who you are
3) Where you are
4) What you want

This simplified version will give you the basic jist.
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RE: ATC Talk, Do I Have It Down?

Wed Jul 16, 2003 12:59 pm

You don't need to tell tower what information you have when you're ready for takeoff. I've never heard anyone using that. When it comes to crossing runways, ground controllers will usually tell you if they want you to hold short of one, say for landing traffic. If they give you a taxi clearance that takes you across a runway then you are cleared across it. Just check to see if there is anyone using the runway before crossing it.

Remember, keep transmissions brief. For instance, when calling ground just say; "Cessna XXXXX at Alpha ramp with Zulu(information), taxi active, (touch and go, etc...)" There can be a lot of people in the air. Listen first to make sure you're not stepping on someone when you transmit. That will make it impossible for tower to hear you and waste more time.  Big thumbs up
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RE: ATC Talk, Do I Have It Down?

Wed Jul 16, 2003 1:35 pm

Jhooper has it right...

Just let them know WHO you are, WHERE you are, and WHAT you want. It really doesn't need to be much more complicated than that. To help you develop the ability to understand what they are saying it helps to pickup an inexpensive aviation band scanner and just listen to the communications that take place. You'll quickly be able to distinguish between the "rookies" and the "pros". It won't be long until you're able to sound like the best of them.

Don't worry if you occassionally sound like a rookie - it happens to all of us from time to time. The best way to avoid sounding like a student on his first solo is to take the time to think about what you're going to say - before you say it.


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