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Information On The CV 880/900

Fri Aug 29, 2003 6:26 am

I ask this before in the civil forum before. I know the CV 880/990 was the fastest jet of the 60's. I wanted to know what is the cruising speed of them. What is the cabin width and the wing sweep of the them. Any body that know please tell me thank you.
 
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RE: Information On The CV 880/900

Sat Aug 30, 2003 11:37 pm

This is one of the toughest research I ever had. And I'm still looking for some answers on the wing swept & cabin width. As far as the max cruise speeds goes...the 880 was 615 mph, and the 990 was 625 mph. Judging by some overhead photo shots of both aircrafts, I'll say that the wing sweep was at least 37 degrees, if not more. Stay tuned, I'm still looking into it. My own curiosity is getting to me on the Convair jetliners. Regards.
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RE: Information On The CV 880/900

Sat Aug 30, 2003 11:45 pm

Boy I wish I had won the lottery a few years back.

Could you imagine taking one of those 880's that sat at Mojave for years and converting it to BR-715 engines and modern avionics as your personal corperate aircraft.
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RE: Information On The CV 880/900

Sun Aug 31, 2003 12:06 am

Yep. I wouldn't mind any Convair for a personal transport, including a 240 or a 580 (my sentimental favs). What about that group in Mohave trying to get a 880 airborne again? They had a website for a long time. And there's always Elvis' 880 in Memphis. Should Graceland go under, the 880 would be the first 'artifact' I'll bid on if I had the cash.  Wink/being sarcastic Regards.
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RE: Information On The CV 880/900

Sun Aug 31, 2003 4:20 am

As far as I remember, the 880 was cruising by design at Mach .88, and I heard the 990 was even faster, possibly Mach .90...
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Compare this with the 707, 727 and DC8s of the same era, we were cruising the 707 and 727 at Mach .82, and the DC8 at Mach .80... After the oil crisis of October 1973, these cruising Mach numbers were reduced to .80 and .78 respectively, I assume they reduced the numbers for the 880/990s as well.
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Nowadays, the 747-200/300 cruise at Mach .85 in their early (heavy weight) cruise portion, reducing it to .84 and even .83 as they near the end of their flights. I understand that DC-10 or MD-11 are generally .82 to .83, and the 767 are slower, around .80 or .78... Maybe Rick767 can clarify...
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RE: Information On The CV 880/900

Sun Aug 31, 2003 5:47 am

Thank you Flagship AZ and B747skipper


Both of you where real helps.
 
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RE: Information On The CV 880/900

Sun Aug 31, 2003 10:45 pm

Actually, the introduction of airborne holding patterns and ground holds for air traffic control made the idea of the Convair 880/990 obselete, because the speed capabilities of these planes are no longer useful.

That's why today's LAX-JFK flights take around five hours to complete, compared to the theoretical possibility of under four hour flights in the early 1960's.
 
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RE: Information On The CV 880/900

Sun Aug 31, 2003 11:24 pm

The Graceland 880 is never going to be flyable again, unless you replace the wing.

To get it there they cut the wings off and then bolted it back together with a couple of steel straps.
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RE: Information On The CV 880/900

Tue Sep 02, 2003 2:00 am

Under the certificate of limitations for the 880, 880M, and 990, the maximum operating limit speed is Mach 0.89. The wing sweep on the 880 and 990 is 35 degrees.
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RE: Information On The CV 880/900

Tue Sep 02, 2003 3:24 am

While Elvis's 880 on display at Graceland, N880EP probably will never fly again, it still has a valid registration number.

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