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Pilots: What Do You Think Of LHR/LGW/LTN/LCY?

Tue Sep 02, 2003 8:11 pm

Hiya everyone,

Im new in this forum, but been round on the other forums for a while. Just wondered if there are any pilots who fly into LHR or any of the other London airports, and what their thoughts were. Do you find it stressful, or too busy? Is it a "nice" one to be rostered to?

What equipment do you fly to the airport? Do you find the noise abatement procedures a pain in the ass? Ever had to go around? Ever had to wait ages for a gate? What about runway 9 arrivals then crossing the active departures runway to get to Terminal 4 (and 5) - is that a pain in the ass too?

Just wondering, as I live under the flightpath, and have always wondered what you guys think about London - I would have thought it would be a nightmare with the complicated, busy approach, differing approaches, and few runways. Cant be fun having ATC stick you right up the ass of another plane in front. And i noticed a few times some crosswinds when aircraft are on short finals for 27 - is that a particular problem?

Sorry to bombard you guys with questions - im just curious (and very jellous).


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RE: Pilots: What Do You Think Of LHR/LGW/LTN/LCY?

Mon Sep 08, 2003 2:40 am

Many U.K. pilots use
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RE: Pilots: What Do You Think Of LHR/LGW/LTN/LCY?

Mon Sep 08, 2003 10:19 am

I have only ever operated into LHR, out of your lists. I find it to be nice, after the long flight, speaking to controllers with bad english, to speak to another Brit. LHR is obviously very busy, but they know what they are doing and I would say they are the best controllers in the world that I have experienced. They handle a very high number of arrivals but don't even sound like they are getting stressed.

In the US, airports like LAX also have very high numbers of aircraft, but the controllers there sound like they are working to the limit of their calls are given incredibly quickly (Too quickly for people with english as a second language) and they get stressed easily if you get a readback wrong. In London they are typically calm and collected. You are very close on finals to other traffic, and therefore must vacate the runways quickly. This often means that it's not particularly smooth for the passengers, but sometimes you have to slam on the brakes and really take the high speed turnoff at high speed!

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RE: Pilots: What Do You Think Of LHR/LGW/LTN/LCY?

Mon Sep 08, 2003 10:19 am

Taxying is unusual as they use Block numbers instead of telling you to "Hold short of A" They tell you to "Hold Block 60". That can be confusing for new pilots there. I have never had to wait for my bay, or spent any significant time taxying, but our flights (Back when I was on the 744) used to arrive early morning.

I have had to go-around once when all 3 of our radios failed on short finals for 27R with traffic on the runway. We climbed to 1500ft and turned downwind. Halfway through downwind we fortunately got our radios back and got vectors to land 27L. That was a bit scary as the Captain turned downwind and we could see a long line of traffic lined up. We then thought "now what?".
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RE: Pilots: What Do You Think Of LHR/LGW/LTN/LCY?

Wed Sep 10, 2003 2:05 am

I flew the RJ into LHR and LCY!
LHR is a great airport with pretty good Controllers.
The Taxysystem is a bid confusing but your getting used to it.
The approaches and missed approaches are quite simple.

LCY is a different thing. 5,5° ILS and a runway of about 1200m.
When the wind blows from the south you get into some heavy and dangerous turbulence due to buildings built south of the airport. Now they are working on a new house on the north side of the Airport.
But approaching rwy10 is a great thing, you can look into some guys office.
Especially in difficult weather conditions this place is a dangerous one.

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