Andi
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Aircraft Routing...how To Find?

Tue Sep 23, 2003 11:37 pm

Dear Community,

it's only a question...

I want to follow up, what routing a aircraft "will go" during a day / week.
My idea was to figure out firstly the Airline (for example: AIR BERLIN) and the Aircraft-Type (B737-800 & B737-400) and check out the web-site or a paper-flightplan for this information...but, it seams to be impossible to select destination by destination & date by daty, write it down and collect so the cmpl. flightplan. It seams to be a horrible job...

At the end I want to have the following :
Aircraft1 -
Routing Monday: DUS - PMI - MUC - PMI - DUS
Routing Tuesday: DUS - ZRH - DUS - AGA - DUS
...but not virtual or expected - I want to have REAL routings.

Is there any way to figure out this kind of things easily on any source ??? Can you help me ?? Not only for Air Berlin, als some other airlines are welcome.

Your help would be highly appreciate
bye
andi
 
goboeing
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RE: Aircraft Routing...how To Find?

Tue Sep 23, 2003 11:45 pm

A couple people have posted this before, and I saved them because it's interesting to see where a particular jets goes in a month.

This is an actual month (January 2002) in the life of N210UA, a 2-class 777 for United.

(DEP ORGN-FLT#-DEST ARR)

1-Jan 1323 LAX-65-HNL 1748 2258 HNL-62-SFO 0512
2-Jan 0901 SFO-67-HNL 1258 1404 HNL-52-LAX 2039
3-Jan 1319 LAX-65-HNL 1722 2218 HNL-54-LAX 0523
4-Jan 0904 LAX-53-HNL 1322 1432 HNL-60-SFO 2015
5-Jan 1223 SFO-59-HNL 1611 2220 HNL-54-LAX 0513
6-Jan 0850 LAX-53-HNL 1247 1411 HNL-60-SFO 2032
7-Jan 0853 SFO-67-HNL 1218 1343 HNL-52-LAX 2050
8-Jan 1326 LAX-65-HNL 1709 2250 HNL-62-SFO 0536
9-Jan 0750 SFO-970-IAD 1509 1924 IAD-971-SFO 2155
10-Jan 0752 SFO-970-IAD 1525 1732 IAD-971-SFO 2002
11-Jan 0748 SFO-970-IAD 1535 1737 IAD-971-SFO 1943
12-Jan 0847 SFO-1208-DEN 1158 1333 DEN-928-ORD 1658
13-Jan 1329 ORD-950-IAD 1625 1739 IAD-971-SFO 2003
14-Jan 0930 SFO-47-OGG 1226 1442 OGG-34-SFO 2124
15-Jan 1230 SFO-59-HNL 1519 2249 HNL-62-SFO 0604
16-Jan 0932 SFO-47-OGG 1216 1439 OGG-34-SFO 2128
17-Jan 0949 SFO-47-OGG 1238 1443 OGG-34-SFO 2129
18-Jan M/x
19-Jan M/x
20-Jan M/x
21-Jan M/x
22-Jan M/x
23-Jan M/x
24-Jan 1449 SFO-59-HNL 1813 2249 HNL-62-SFO 0515
25-Jan 0859 SFO-67-HNL 1226 1334 HNL-52-LAX 2030
26-Jan 1328 LAX-65-HNL 1723 2214 HNL-54-LAX 0507
27-Jan 0838 LAX-53-HNL 1220 1416 HNL-60-SFO 2058
28-Jan 0937 SFO-47-OGG 1245 1529 OGG-34-SFO 2155
29-Jan 0928 SFO-47-OGG 1253 1430 OGG-34-SFO 2111
30-Jan 1201 SFO-1208-DEN 1514 1617 DEN-928-ORD 1941 2043 ORD-247-DEN 2228
31-Jan 1115 DEN-962-IAD 1619 1730 IAD-951-ORD 1836

I can't seem to find the one I have from WN, but I'll keep looking.

Nick
 
AAR90
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RE: Aircraft Routing...how To Find?

Wed Sep 24, 2003 3:30 am

This is not something the general public needs to know so no airline will spend the time/money to make it available to the general public. You need to ask someone on the "inside."  Wink/being sarcastic
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RE: Aircraft Routing...how To Find?

Wed Sep 24, 2003 6:06 am

In addition to what AAR90 mentioned, I'll also point out (from where these decisions are made) that the information is quite subject to change, literally minute-by-minute sometimes. The most common variables are weather-related, and also which aircraft within an airline's fleet are out-of-service at any one moment.
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RE: Aircraft Routing...how To Find?

Wed Sep 24, 2003 9:18 am

There are "one time flight plans" - filed for each flights, and RPL, "repetitive flight plans", for flights scheduled, i.e. on a daily base... the route remains the same in that case, but ATC may change it based on traffic...
xxx
Cleared "as filed" then later changes, happen to me many times... Some of you, who are airline enthusiasts, are going "beyond" even, of the expectations of line pilots. If we are "normally" flying that route, but the next flight, ATC gives us a different routing, the only problem is to have to copy the changes... and if much longer, do we carry enough fuel...
xxx
As an example, I read sometimes "what registry was the airplane flying that route on last thursday...?" - Madre de Dios...! - I dont even remember which airplane registry is the one I flew the day before yesterday... What is "so" important to aviation enthusiasts is often of little interest to pilots. But it is always a pleasure to read some facts trough your expert "observer's eyes..."
xxx
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RE: Aircraft Routing...how To Find?

Wed Sep 24, 2003 11:32 am

For those who really gotta know, here's the past 5-days routing for aircraft 3CC (B738) from AA's database:

N3CC 738W YESTERDAY ROUTING
..FLT... FROM... TO... ACFT... OFF/ON... TIME... TST... CYCL
..613/18..DFW..1644..RNO..1741..3CCXX..1644..1741..2.57..8582.37..3541
..764/19..RNO..0709..ORD..1224..3CC......0709..1224..3.15..8585.52..3542
..764/19..ORD..1418..YUL..1650..3CC......1418..1650..1.32..8587.24..3543
..597/19..YUL..1804..ORD..1849..3CC......1804..1849..1.45..8589.09..3544
..564/19..ORD..2004..YYZ..2204..3CCXX..2004..2204..1.00..8590.09..3545
..343/20..YYZ..0655..MIA..0930..3CC......0655..0930..2.35..8592.44..3546
..935/20..MIA..1133..CCS..1421..3CC......1133..1421..2.48..8595.32..3547
..936/20..CCS..1606..MIA..1906..3CC......1606..1906..3.00..8598.32..3548
..576/20..MIA..2043..RDU..2220..3CCXX..2043..2220..1.37..8600.09..3549
..695/21..RDU..0801..MIA..0935..3CC......0801..0935..1.34..8601.43..3550
..695/21..MIA..1116..STX..1341..3CC......1116..1341..2.25..8604.08..3551
..706/21..STX..1514..MIA..1740..3CC......1514..1740..2.26..8606.34..3552
..706/21..MIA..1936..BWI..2149..3CCXX..1936..2149..2.13..8608.47..3553
..925/22..BWI..0733..MIA..0943..3CC......0733..0943..2.10..8610.57..3554
..960/22..MIA..1347..DEN..1537..3CCXX..1347..1537..3.50..8614.47..3555
..312/23..DEN..0732..DFW..0948..3CC......0732..0948..1.16..8616.03..3556
..312/23..DFW..1120..MCO..1417..3CC......1120..1417..1.57..8618.00..3557
1057/23..MCO..1530..DFW..1649..3CC......1530..1649..2.19..8620.19..3558
1057/23..DFW..1814..RNO..1915..3CCXX..1814...................8623.47..3559
..764/24..RNO..0720..ORD..1238..3CC...............................8627.25..3560
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Andi
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RE: Aircraft Routing...how To Find?

Wed Sep 24, 2003 2:35 pm

Dear all,

thanks for this informations - especially for the routings from 'GOBOEING' and 'AAR90'.
I think you are right if you say, this are no "public datas"...but for me it is very interesting and so I'm ask for.
At the end, I have to look to the Airline-Flightplans....

thank you
andi

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