SafetyDude
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747 Upper Deck Door Question

Sun Sep 28, 2003 10:32 pm

Hi all, I was under the impression that only -300 and -400 variants of the 747 had the larger upper deck door that is (although above) between Doors 1 and 2 and swings up (like on the wing exits of the 737 NG). However, I recently came across a picture of a KLM 742 SUD that had the larger upper deck door.

Could clarify all of this for me?
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RE: 747 Upper Deck Door Question

Sun Sep 28, 2003 10:46 pm

I'm a little confused by your question. On the 742SUD, it basically has a -300/-400 "hump" put on the 742's fuselage. So, it in turn will have those larger doors. This for evacuation rules.
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RE: 747 Upper Deck Door Question

Sun Sep 28, 2003 10:50 pm

A few 747-200s were reconfigured to have the same upper deck as the 300. KLM and UTA did the conversion to a few of their airplanes. Initially, the 747-300 was going to be called 747-200SUD... but Boeing changed the designation to 300. Swissair was the first customer for the 300... No USA air carriers operated 747-300s...
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There are not many differences between a 200 and a 300 (there are differences which came from different options offered by Boeing, but were available to any 200 or 300 when ordered).
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Therefore, the 747-206SUD has the same upper deck doors as a 747-306.
Hoping this does it for you...
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RE: 747 Upper Deck Door Question

Mon Sep 29, 2003 12:30 am

The SUD stands for "Stretched Upper Deck"

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RE: 747 Upper Deck Door Question

Mon Sep 29, 2003 12:50 am

Ahh, that all makes sense. Thanks everyone, and thanks again Skipper!
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RE: 747 Upper Deck Door Question

Mon Sep 29, 2003 1:35 am

I think Japan Air Lines also ordered some 747-100's with the SUD, or maybe they could have been converted later - but either way they operated them. I believe also that these particular aircraft were SR (domestic) versions.

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RE: 747 Upper Deck Door Question

Mon Sep 29, 2003 9:02 am

When Qantas introduced the Boeing 747-338 it was termed the 'EUD', or Extended Upper Deck', as 'SUD' is an acronym for 'Sudden Unexplained Death' in medical circles.

That's all correct btw Gordon.
 
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747 SUD

Thu Sep 30, 2004 5:20 pm

To B747skipper.

Actually, AmericaWest operated 747-300s. Don't know if they still do.

I beg to differ on the difference between the 200 and 300 as well because the engine-pylons, the engine-gondolas and the engines themselves differ quite greatly providing improved fuel-consumption and a superior range of the 300 over the 200. They also are less noisy, but what's in a name.

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RE: 747 Upper Deck Door Question

Fri Oct 01, 2004 6:40 am

Welcome back Skipper, we missed our resident 747 guru.
 
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RE: 747 Upper Deck Door Question

Fri Oct 01, 2004 6:54 am

You need to check the date on that post  Big grin

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RE: 747 Upper Deck Door Question

Fri Oct 01, 2004 7:13 am

Y'all had me going there with the reference to The Skip'. Too bad it was a year ago.

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RE: 747 Upper Deck Door Question

Sat Oct 02, 2004 9:06 am

I thought it was to good to be true that Skipper was back on the board. What confuses me is that it shows on his post that he joined in Oct. 2004, so I assumed that he signed up again using his old username. But when I click on his name it shows name not registered.

Its to bad because he probably had the most knowledge of 747's than anyone else on Airliners.net

Does anyone know why he left the board.
 
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RE: 747 Upper Deck Door Question

Sun Oct 03, 2004 3:13 am

James
The planes operated by HP were from Northwest/KLM and were not -300's.
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RE: 747 Upper Deck Door Question

Sun Oct 03, 2004 5:59 pm

I know that this is a tech forum and I apologise in advance for this post but you may enjoy this.

You can apply the term SUD to some people too,

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