boeingflying31
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Written Exam Nightmare!

Wed Oct 01, 2003 1:51 pm

Hey guys, I'm currently a 16 year old solo pilot and I have about 160 hours of flying time mostly in single engine planes(ever since I was 13). My Private checkride is coming up pretty soon(2 months) but I have a bit of a concern when it comes to taking my Private written exam. I know how to fly, but I don't know much when it comes to the ground aspects of flying. I'm just wondering, are there any good aviation ground courses that are 2 weekends long, preferably cheap, and hopefully located in the San Antonio/Austin area? Feel free to e-mail me. Thanks!
 
as739x
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RE: Written Exam Nightmare!

Wed Oct 01, 2003 2:14 pm

BF31-I'd call the local FBO's and check with them. Chances are that ground schools are once a week for maybe 2-3 months. Its really easy to self study for it with the right books. If you can't do either I'd get in touch with your CFI and get some ground in. Also go to the site below that I have posted and self test. Good lucky buddy!

http://aeromedia.com/quiz/index.html

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jhooper
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RE: Written Exam Nightmare!

Wed Oct 01, 2003 2:33 pm

Order the King Schools tapes; they'll get you through that written in a breeze!

Good luck!
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fly727
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RE: Written Exam Nightmare!

Wed Oct 01, 2003 2:39 pm

You say you are in the San Antonio area? Ok...

I can think of two places. For great preparation, good ground instruction and unlimited time of a written test PC simulator go to Alpha Tango Flying Services (SAT), right next to Piedmont Hawthorn South Ramp FBO. The chief flight instructor is great and he usually have time for students like you. His name is Mr. Afzal. (210) 828-4480. Say Ramon from Cancun sent you, I gave ground instructor there; I'm sure you'll get a good deal ($).

Another quality place you can go is International Flight Center or IFC, this one in Piedmont Hawthorn North ramp FBO. The school is a little nicer (classrooms and stuff), but it is more expensive than the first option though. I have a friend there, Mr. Yoseba Zorrila. Great instructor.

Gleim's and ASA products are really helpful. Go to the Pilotshoppe in Sandau Rd, preferably with your CFI to get a discount.

What really helped me a lot was the usage of the PC and consulting with my CFI any doubt.

Good luck with your test friend!!! You'll do great !

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L-188
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RE: Written Exam Nightmare!

Wed Oct 01, 2003 2:40 pm

Take this from a guy that used to give the FAA writtens forget the King school tapes or the one day refresher.

Step one, find out what test system they use at the location you are taking the test. For example, when I was giving them we where a sylvan testing facility, the college I go to now uses Lasergrade.

Step two, get a copy of the ASA's or Gleims computerized testing prep. It will have all the questions from the FAA test blank on it, and either has the capability to emulate any of the computerized FAA testing vendors test.


Step three, go through the whole question blank, I forget how many possible questions there are, and run a bunch of the practice tests.

This should set you up pretty nicely
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XFSUgimpLB41X
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RE: Written Exam Nightmare!

Wed Oct 01, 2003 3:21 pm

I'm going to have to recommend the Garmin CD-ROM's....wonderful tools. Just take the practice tests a pile of times until you consistently make in the 90's and youll breeze through it.

As far as external study materials...nothing beats a good flight instructor and the Jeppesen private pilot kit. Not a big fan of King, here.
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jhooper
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RE: Written Exam Nightmare!

Wed Oct 01, 2003 3:47 pm

Take this from a guy that used to give the FAA writtens forget the King school tapes or the one day refresher.

I know Martha can be kind of annoying, but I think it's hard to watch the King tapes and not score in the 90s. Of the 7 FAA written exams I took w/ King, the lowest grade I recieved (AGI) was a 95. While I agree that there are better products out there as far as real knowledge is concerned, if you're just looking at getting by the written, I still think King is the way to go. But don't slack off on the rest of your ground training. If all you do is memorize the answers to the test it will show up on your practical and you won't be as safe of a pilot. JMO.
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Kempa
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RE: Written Exam Nightmare!

Wed Oct 01, 2003 11:48 pm

Don't worry too much about it. Study with any of the guides, do the computerized simulated tests a few times so you will know which areas need more study and which need less. If you have logged 160 hours you probably know a lot of what is in the books. Pay more attention to what you don't learn flying... Weather, planning, charts, this kind of stuff...

And good luck with that solo coming up!
 
buckfifty
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RE: Written Exam Nightmare!

Wed Oct 01, 2003 11:59 pm

I used to own a CD-ROM set from the King Schools a few years back. My God, I was bored to tears. Though it was nice to have an interactive setup when you're going through the motions, and overall, it was quite a helpful study aid.
 
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RE: Written Exam Nightmare!

Thu Oct 02, 2003 12:22 am

Ajay...
Hey, I was in your shoes once. These guys are giving you good advice. Get a set of tapes and go through the course. (I'd check around, there's probably some used tapes around from people who have recently completed their training - you can often buy them at a very good price.) It's not a "nightmare" yet, but you don't want to put this off until the week before your 17th birthday.

FWIW, I only recommend the 1 Day Review Courses for folks who, in the past, had already taken some sort of ground school and have a good handle on the material. For those people, it's a good way to review the material and organize it in their minds.

Here's another tip. If you do well enough on the Private written (85% or better) go in the next day and just take the commercial written. You're almost guaranteed a passing score.

Jetguy
 
ben
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RE: Written Exam Nightmare!

Thu Oct 02, 2003 1:24 am

Here's another tip. If you do well enough on the Private written (85% or better) go in the next day and just take the commercial written. You're almost guaranteed a passing score.

 Wow! !

You mean that in the USA, you only have to do one exam for the PPL?

..and only one for the commercial? ...and that isn't even much harder?


OMG. It's a different world.

 
jhooper
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RE: Written Exam Nightmare!

Thu Oct 02, 2003 3:03 am

Actually, the commercial is quite a bit harder. The questions (especially the flight planning variety) are much more in-depth. But like Ben said, it's basically the same stuff (just one level higher), and yes you probably would Pass, but I wouldn't take the CPL test unless you've prepared for those things which don't appear on th PPL.
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fspilot747
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RE: Written Exam Nightmare!

Thu Oct 02, 2003 8:26 am

You don't need any special courses, or tapes for that matter. All you need is Gleim's PPL Written book.

It's got every question and every answer in it.


Cheers
 
futureualpilot
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RE: Written Exam Nightmare!

Thu Oct 02, 2003 11:54 am

Hey BF31, the King schools course helped me pass. Its intimidating to think about but a weekend alone with the king course and a couple days studying itll be a breeze.
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sccutler
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RE: Written Exam Nightmare!

Thu Oct 02, 2003 12:51 pm

Sporty's has a great set of practice exams (two modes, one- the "Study Buddy"- gives answers; the other is a timed test simulating the FAA written precisely).

Take Sporty's test repeatedly until you are consistently scoring in the 90's, and you'll ace the real deal.

And the Gleim books are gold, too.
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SkyGuy11
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RE: Written Exam Nightmare!

Thu Oct 02, 2003 3:17 pm

This is the absoulete cheapest yet still reliable way to score high on the FAA exams:

Get the gleim books, as many have said. That's probably around $15. Rip through that thing with a highlighter a few times, and really hammer the ones you missed.

Then go on the internet and take some free online private written tests at sites like www.webexams.com. When you can consistantly score 90%+, take the test.

Good luck!
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Arch89U
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RE: Written Exam Nightmare!

Tue Oct 07, 2003 7:38 am

To all those that gave advice:

Thank you. I got a 100 on the instrument written today.

I used the Gleim book. It works.

 
futureualpilot
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RE: Written Exam Nightmare!

Tue Oct 07, 2003 11:17 am

Congrats Arch89U, thats excellent!
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RE: Written Exam Nightmare!

Tue Oct 07, 2003 12:03 pm

For you young gentlemen who are taking FAA writtens, planning to continue through CPL etc...
To make the aviation theory study effort a "one time effort" to study for the tests, I suggest, you do this...
xxx
Study for the PPL, then CPL then do at the same time writtens for Basic ground Instructor and Flight Instructor Airplane. One harder effort I admit, but at least you will not have to re-study the same subjects...
xxx
Study the IFR rating written, the ground instructor instrument written and flight instructor instrument at the same time as well, same reason...
xxx
Study fundamentals of instruction (one exam) which is required for both ground instructor andf flight instructor... 1 test for both certificates...
xxx
One limitation, from date you take and pass you writtens, you have 2 years to take the flight tests...
I believe however that this "grouping" of same subjects for study, in the long run makes you gain time and effort...
xxx
In the old days (talking 35 years ago) I studied the ATP written, flight navigator and F/E turbojet at the same time... lot of subjects were common...
xxx
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liamksa
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RE: Written Exam Nightmare!

Tue Oct 07, 2003 2:51 pm

Here in OZ there's 1 exam for PPL and 7  Nuts CPLs varying from around 1 to 2.5 hours each:

- AGK
- Nav
- Flight planning
- Human factors
- Met
- Aerodynamics
- Air law

How long and how many questions would you expect to get in the US for a CPL written?
 
gocaps16
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RE: Written Exam Nightmare!

Fri Oct 10, 2003 11:45 am

Come on. You don't need to spend $200-300 on CD-roms or ground school. Why pay all that where you can get one red book called Gleim's FAA Written Exam Study for Private Pilot for $20. I used it to study my written exam, I studied all the questions, memorize and understand the the answers, simple as that. It was a breeze for me. It took me 20 minutes to answer all 60 questions and I got a 97%.

Kevin
 
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RE: Written Exam Nightmare!

Fri Oct 10, 2003 1:13 pm

The reason I pressed for the CD-Rom, which memory serves is more like 70 bucks, and in some cases comes with the study guide book, is that the computer can give you dry runs.

Which for a lot of people helps tremendously.
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saintsman
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RE: Written Exam Nightmare!

Fri Oct 10, 2003 3:47 pm

Not to burst your bubble, but I am surprised you don't know the 'ground stuff'. You need to know a lot of the theory to help you fly safely. However I suspect that with your experience you probably know more than you think and are un-necessarily worrying about the exam. Get the book with the questions in and go through that. It will probably suffice.
 
gocaps16
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RE: Written Exam Nightmare!

Sat Oct 11, 2003 8:07 am

oh yea, the ground knowledge will be very useful for your oral part of your checkride.

Kevin
 
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RE: Written Exam Nightmare!

Fri Oct 17, 2003 6:55 am

the Gleim stuff is gold.. i didn't even find it boring.. quite a switch from most of my other school related books.
 
pilotpip
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RE: Written Exam Nightmare!

Sat Oct 18, 2003 11:46 am

I'm all for the Gliem stuff. The books work really well. I've also used the software with success but it's way to expensive to buy when you get five ratings in four years (my school has it on a computer at the flight line). I don't do well with the writtens for some reason. If you are like me, memorize as many of the non-flight planning related ones. You only need a 70 and it makes no difference if you get that or a 100.

One other thing I found useful. http://www.exams4pilots.org/

Best part, IT'S FREE!!!
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RE: Written Exam Nightmare!

Mon Oct 20, 2003 1:00 pm

If you think books etc won't do for you, I would agree with Fly727 with regard to Alpha Tango Flying, I have met Mr. Hameed Afzal (great person) and I know a couple of pilots who got their training from there and they held his training in the highest regard, not to mention that they went there becaue it was the best deal ($) in the first place.
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