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ATC Callsigns

Sun Nov 30, 2003 2:41 am

What are the ATC callsigns, IF NOT OBVIOUS, for the following airlines:

American Trans Air
Air Tran
Midwest
Frontier
Spirit
Song
America West Express
Continental Express
US Airways Express
Air Canada
Air Canada Jazz (will that be the same?)
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RE: ATC Callsigns

Sun Nov 30, 2003 2:48 am

Continental Express (BTA) Jetlink
Air Tran Citrus
US Airways Express..depends on which company, there are several.

[Edited 2003-11-29 19:14:53]
 
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RE: ATC Callsigns

Sun Nov 30, 2003 3:04 am

American Trans Air - AmTran
Song - Delta (it's not a separate airline, so it uses the "Delta" callsign)
 
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RE: ATC Callsigns

Sun Nov 30, 2003 3:04 am

Jazz is JAZZ

I believe American Trans air is "AIR TRANS" which would be the reason AirTran had to choose something different, which is CITRUS

Continental Express operated by Expressjet Airlines is JETLINK

Frontier & Spirit are FRONTIER & SPIRIT

As for Air Canada, is it CANADA or LEAF? I thought I remember hearing "LEAF" on a scanner one time.

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RE: ATC Callsigns

Sun Nov 30, 2003 4:49 am

Call signs you might hear for US Airways Express(just the ones I know)

Chataqua-Chataqua Airlines
Air Shuttle(no idea who this is)
Waterski-Trans States Airlines

America West is Cactus, again the codeshare flights are operated by different carriers.

Here are a few other ones off the top of my head since I'm at work for 13 hours today and bored.

Airborne Express- Abex
ValuJet was Critter
I've heard Air Canada used
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RE: ATC Callsigns

Sun Nov 30, 2003 5:06 am

Here is a great site for callsigns, IATA, ICAO codes etc:

http://www.airlinecodes.co.uk

Air Canada's callsign is just Air Canada.

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RE: ATC Callsigns

Sun Nov 30, 2003 10:01 am

did any of AC's affiliates use "leaf" before becoming Jazz? I could almost swear I remember somebody using "leaf" and i think it was when I went to seattle & YVR.

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RE: ATC Callsigns

Sun Nov 30, 2003 12:08 pm

Bruce,
American Trans Air's callsign is "Am Tran"
Also, no one mentioned Midwest which is "Midex"

The link that DC-10 Levo provided has them all...

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RE: ATC Callsigns

Sun Nov 30, 2003 4:59 pm

Also I think all of Delta's Song flights are have four-digit flight numbers all starting with 2 (i.e. DAL2139)
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RE: ATC Callsigns

Sun Nov 30, 2003 5:27 pm

I heard "song" called over the scanner all day today, so maybe they changed it?
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RE: ATC Callsigns

Mon Dec 01, 2003 12:38 am

Phil,
Maybe they were referring to a Song jet on the ground? Like, "Midex 1 taxi to runway 4 give way to the Song on your right." That's more helpful than saying Delta.

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RE: ATC Callsigns

Mon Dec 01, 2003 2:17 am


I tune in to JFK tower quite frequently over the web and they always refer to Song as "delta".

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RE: ATC Callsigns

Mon Dec 01, 2003 3:18 am

I flew UA over the weekend ORD-CLE and on the return, while listenting to ATC on channel 9 (man, I love that feature!!!), I heard 'Flagship' and 'Blue Ridge' Can anyone tell me what airlines use these c/s?? Also, is 'Cactus' America West?

As an aside, it's so awesome to listen to ATC inflight and the correlation b/t ATC with your flt and the aircraft's movement. It would be amazing if more carriers included this as an inflight feature!
 
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RE: ATC Callsigns

Mon Dec 01, 2003 5:20 am

AAsliverbird:
I'm not sure about Flagship but Blue Ridge is Atlantic Coast Airlines (United Express) and Catus is America West.
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RE: ATC Callsigns

Mon Dec 01, 2003 6:58 am

"Flagship" is Pinnacle (NW's CRJ-flying Regional).
 
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RE: ATC Callsigns

Mon Dec 01, 2003 8:17 am

ViFlyer and Theiler, thanks for the info!

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RE: ATC Callsigns

Mon Dec 01, 2003 9:32 am

Foreign pilot point of view here -
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Friends, you are confused about ATC callsigns... so are we, pilots...
Here is the situation... I was in a classroom with Argentina pilots, they are all concerned about good communications in English with ATC in USA... But some came to ask me "how do you know what airplane is with these call signs...?" -
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At some busy airports in USA, ground control for taxi instructions depends much on listening "who is going where"... I would not know what a "Cactus 737 is" - I have a vague idea - But in my days in USA, besides Clipper and Speedbird - very well known call signs - the names where painted on the airplane and easy to read.
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In the USA - there is a definite abuse of "cute" call signs... You do not have that confusion at other busy airports overseas - FRA, LHR, CDG, NRT, SIN...
The call sign is written ON the airplanes...
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Just wanted to give you the opinion of foreign pilots here.
As confused as you are...
We already have a hell of a time knowing what a CRJ "something" or an Embraer "whatever" is.
At least there is no doubt as to who "Argentina 1234" is...
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RE: ATC Callsigns

Mon Dec 01, 2003 1:40 pm

I found it interesting that Atlantic Coast Airlines is "Patriot"
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RE: ATC Callsigns

Mon Dec 01, 2003 1:49 pm

Canadian North/Air NorTerra (5T) uses the callsign "Empress"....

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RE: ATC Callsigns

Mon Dec 01, 2003 3:58 pm

I found it interesting that Atlantic Coast Airlines is "Patriot"

OK, now I'm a little confused.....is Atlantic Coast Airlines 'Patriot' or 'Blue Ridge'? When I asked about 'Blue Ridge' above it was reported as Atlantic Coast Airlines.
 
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RE: ATC Callsigns

Tue Dec 02, 2003 3:58 am

No..ACA is Blue Ridge, I see them and hear them every day when i'm at work at ORD. That's also where ACA a/c get the last two letters on there reg. (i.e. N123BR).
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RE: ATC Callsigns

Tue Dec 02, 2003 6:36 am

OK, got it...thanks again for the clarification, Viflyer!  Smile
 
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RE: ATC Callsigns

Tue Dec 02, 2003 7:11 am

American Trans Air - "AMTRAN"
AirTran - "CITRUS"
Midwest - "MIDEX"
Frontier - "FRONTIER"
Spirit - "SPIRIT" (ICAO filing is "SPIRIT WINGS" but rarely used)
Song - "DELTA" (Song does not have its own certificate)
America West Express (Mesa Airlines) - "AIR SHUTTLE"
Continental Express - "JET LINK"
US Airways Express (Air Midwest) - "AIR MIDWEST"
US Airways Express (Allegheny) - "ALLEGHENY"
US Airways Express (Chautauqua) - "CHAUTAUQUA"
US Airways Express (Colgan Air) - "COLGAN"
US Airways Express (Mesa Airlines) - "AIR SHUTTLE"
US Airways Express (Piedmont Airlines) - "PIEDMONT"
US Airways Express (Potomac Airlines) - "DISTRICT"
US Airways Express (PSA Airlines) - "BLUE STREAK"
US Airways Express (Trans States) - "WATERSKI"
Air Canada - "AIR CANADA"
Air Canada Jazz - "JAZZ"

Some notes for fun:

Canadian North radio "EMPRESS" came from the callsign of the late CP Air.
AirTran radio was originally "MANATEE" and later changed its callsign to "CITRUS" after acquisition by ValuJet ("CRITTER").
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RE: ATC Callsigns

Tue Dec 02, 2003 6:11 pm

Actually, "critter" would make an excellent calsign for Frontier with their animal tails livery. Quite fitting, isnt it? But probably not a good idea considering the history of "critter".....


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RE: ATC Callsigns

Thu Dec 04, 2003 9:34 am

Air Canada-"Air Canada" or "Canada"
Air Canada Regional- "Jazz"
Zip Air- "Wind zip"
First Air-"First Air"
Northwest Airlines-"Northwest"
Westjet-"Westjet"
Skyservice-"Sky Tour"
America West-"Cactus"
Mesaba-"Mesaba"
United Express- "Wisconsin"
Canadian Forces Hercules or A310-"CanForce"
Canadian Forces Dash 8-"Gonzo"
Canadian Forces CF-18-"Cougar"
Air Transat-"Air Transat" or "Transat"
Jetblue-"Jet Blue"

FedEx-"FedEx"
Kelowna Flightcraft-"Flightcraft"
Morning Star-"Morning Star"
UPS-"UPS"

Virgin Atlantic-"Virgin"
Japan Air Lines-"Japan"
Air France-"Air France"
Air New Zealand-"New Zealand"
Lufthansa-"Lufthansa"
Korean Air-"Korean Air"
United Airlines-"United"
KLM-"KLM"
British Airways-"Speed Bird"
American Airlines-"American"
Condor-"Condor"
Continental-"Continental"
Alitalia-"Alitalia"
Horizon Airlines-"Horizon"
Ansett Australia-"Ansett"
Delta-"Delta"
Cathay Pacific Airways-"Cathay"
US Airways-"US Air"
Aer Lingus- "Shammrock"
Eva Airways- "Eva"
Alaska Airlines- "Alaska"
Air Tahiti Nui- "Tahiti"
China Eastern Cargo- "Eastern"
Northwest Express- "Flagship"
China Airlines- "Dynasty"
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RE: ATC Callsigns

Thu Dec 04, 2003 4:48 pm

SN Brussels Airlines: S-tail
Citybird: Dreamflight ----> doesn't exist anymore
Malmö Aviation: Scan Wing
Aer Lingus: Shamrock
MNG Airlines: Blacksea
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RE: ATC Callsigns

Sat Dec 06, 2003 1:42 am

With Frontier, I believe they have to say "Frontier Flight".

Also, the reason for the "cute" names is due to things that sound similar. The obvious example is America West. If they used anything with "America" in it at all, it would sound too much like "American". That's why they use "Cactus" instead. Same goes for "American Eagle" using "Eagle Flight". It's a matter of separating them out aurally.
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RE: ATC Callsigns

Sat Dec 06, 2003 4:26 am

Seeing as how United is operating aircraft in Ted's new livery, is their callsign still 'United' or is/will the c/s be 'Ted'?
 
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RE: ATC Callsigns

Sat Dec 06, 2003 5:04 am

It will be the same thing. It's just like when they ran "United Shuttle" service... same callsign. The difference for the airline is strictly in scheduling and cabin config. Since ATC doesn't care about that, as far as the ATC is concerned it's a United plane.
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RE: ATC Callsigns

Sat Dec 06, 2003 6:12 am

Actually, when American West first came to be in the early 80s, its callsign was in fact "AMERICA WEST", however, for phraseology reasons, it was changed to "CACTUS". As for United and TED, the aircraft's config, nor ATC has anything to do with the callsign. Callsigns are registered to the carrier's certificate. TED is a marketing arm of United, and all of the airplanes are on United's certificate and operated by United crews; therefore, TED's callsign is "UNITED". Same reason why all Hooter's Air flights go by the radio "PACE"; simple reason that the aircraft and crews are Pace; Hooter's Air being only a public charter who uses Pace for its flight operations and sells tickets.
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