fightingfalcon
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ZRH Approach?

Sun Jan 18, 2004 11:22 pm

The standart procedure is an approach from the north. Why do 95 per cent of the aircraft use ILS 14 and only very few ILS 16?

And what exactly is the difference between a "side step" and a "swing over"?

I need that for a piece of work...
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a3xx900
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RE: ZRH Approach?

Mon Jan 19, 2004 12:32 am

Doesn't it have something to do with flying into German airspace or so?
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fightingfalcon
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RE: ZRH Approach?

Mon Jan 19, 2004 6:14 pm

They are not allowed to land from the north in the morning because of the germans...

What I'm asking is why do they land more on RWY 14 than on RWY 16. I found out it's because of the Glide Slope signal of the ILS 16 not being reliable. Why is that? Does noone know?

And Side step and Swing over?
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RE: ZRH Approach?

Tue Jan 20, 2004 4:32 am

I have NO idea of what I'm talking about, but as a guess from the use of the language:

A Swing Over would be a change from one direction to another, such as Zurich's ILS 14 approach and swinging over to runway 16 about 30 seconds before touchdown. In a swing over, there is only one change in direction.

A Side Step would be a switch between 2 parallel runways, where you use an ILS of, say 18R and jump over to 18L once you've sighted the field. In this manoevre, there would be two changes in direction - turning towards the 2nd glidepath and then turning onto it, so I guess this would be a little trickier than a swingover.

Like I said, I have no idea, but the language seems to make sense.

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RE: ZRH Approach?

Tue Jan 20, 2004 4:25 pm

Landings are done on runway 14 (ISO runway 16) in ZRH primarily so as not to disrupt takeoffs on runway 28.
It actually works rather well.
 
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RE: ZRH Approach?

Wed Jan 21, 2004 8:24 pm

I concur with 411A, the reason 14 is used is to have 28 and also 16 for takeoffs only. If you look at the taxiway pattern at LSZH you will find that 14 is constructed as a landing-only runway with taxiways leaving it at its southern end, close to the terminal, but no taxiways leading to it. That is different for rwy 16.

However, they occasionally use rwy 16 for landings as well, but never use rwy 14 for takeoffs

Source: a Swissair pilot told me this 4 years ago.
 
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RE: ZRH Approach?

Wed Jan 21, 2004 11:25 pm

They do use the Side Step in Zurich, it's called "ILS 16 Side Step Approach RWY 14", meaning it's first a ILS approach with ILS 16 and then a visual Side Step to 14. I have the Chart for that approach. I just wasn't sure if a Swing Over's the same. But from what I hear, I don't think so. But I've read somewhere that they're doing that at ZRH too...

Doesn't really matter...

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