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Avoiding Canadian Airspace

Sun Jan 25, 2004 9:17 pm

Listening to airband yesterday morning, a pilot from America West flight 66 (LAS-BOS) told the center controller: "We want to make sure that on this heading we'll avoid Canadian airspace."

What's the reason for this? Over-flight charges?

[Edited 2004-01-25 13:18:59]
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RE: Avoiding Canadian Airspace

Sun Jan 25, 2004 10:02 pm

Probably, Nav Canada fees can be quite expensive!
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RE: Avoiding Canadian Airspace

Mon Jan 26, 2004 12:33 am

Canada is a pretty hostile and barbaric country and the flight crew probably didn't want to risk their passengers lives in case of a forced landing. Some cities here don't even have a Starbucks!

Seriously though, there is always the spectre of exposing yourself and your passengers to the laws of the country you fly over. Someone who is a law abiding citizen in the US may be a wanted outlaw in a foreign country subject to arrest and deportation to their country of birth.

If this sounds incredible, just read about the plight of Canadian citizen Maher Arar who was deported to Syria by US authorities.,0,412159.story?coll=sns-ap-nationworld-headlines

Even things as subtle as local state (or provincial) liquor laws change as you cross borders.


RE: Avoiding Canadian Airspace

Mon Jan 26, 2004 1:33 am

I would only assume that it would have to do with the navigation fees charged by Nav Canada for commercial flights. We operate mostly under FAR Part 91 and transit Canadian airspace on a routine basis on many of our trips into parts of Northern New England. The handoffs and handling are completely routine with only minor differences in phraseology.


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