cancidas
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A320 Series Trans-atlantic Flights

Wed Mar 24, 2004 10:39 am

are nonstop flights possible between in the A320 series of aircraft? more specifically, i'm looking to see if the A319CJ could do so, and if it would be possible for an A318 to do the same. i know that diamler-chrysler does fly between detroit and stuttgart.

one other question, would installation of the fuel tank in the forward cargo bin be possible on the A318 as it is done on the A319CJ?
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QantasA332
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A320 Series Trans-atlantic Flights

Wed Mar 24, 2004 10:52 am

For a typical trans-atlantic flight (JFK-LHR [approx. 5600 km.], for example) flight, the 318/319/320/321 all could not make it with a full load...however, with a somewhat reduced load and perhaps an auxiliary fuel tank or two, they could certainly make it. The ACJ can make it unaltered.

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leviticus
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A320 Series Trans-atlantic Flights

Wed Mar 24, 2004 10:57 am

Lufthansa have an A319 jet called PrivateAir, configured all business class it flies daily between DUS and NYC, so it is possible but I don't know if it is modified in some way, maybe LHs website have some answers.
 
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A320 Series Trans-atlantic Flights

Wed Mar 24, 2004 12:15 pm

Leviticus,
That Lufthansa flight is a B-737 BBJ type plane.

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cancidas
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A320 Series Trans-atlantic Flights

Wed Mar 24, 2004 3:29 pm

not only, as privatair operates both the A319CJ and the 737BJ. i've heard of both flying the route.
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LHSebi
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A320 Series Trans-atlantic Flights

Wed Mar 24, 2004 11:46 pm

Privatair is actually an independent charter company (based in Switzerland, I believe), that uses both A320s and B737s for the daily DUS-Newark flight. I don't know for how long this has been going on, but privatair also does a non-stop DUS-ORD all-business flight (on behalf of LH). The pic below is actually the privatair flight taking off from DUS going to ORD. Excuse the bad quality. This is clearly the A320. They alternate the 737s and 320s for the Newark and ORD flights.

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UTA_flyinghigh
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A320 Series Trans-atlantic Flights

Wed Mar 24, 2004 11:49 pm

I beg to differ a bit.
The above plane is not an A320, rather an A319CJ (notice the single overwing exits).
PrivatAir is based in GVA, Switzerland and operate everything from broomsticks to SST's.

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A320 Series Trans-atlantic Flights

Wed Mar 24, 2004 11:55 pm

Okay, no broomsticks Big grin


PrivatAir fleet :
Boeing 757-200
Airbus A319LR
Airbus A319
Boeing 737-700 BBJ
Boeing 737-300
Canadair Challenger 600/601/604
Cessna Citation Encore/II/III/X
Dassault Falcon 900B
Gulfstream IISP/III/IV/IVSp
BAe Hawker 125-700/800
Learjet 55/60
Beech KingAir 200
Nimbus 3000

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LHSebi
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A320 Series Trans-atlantic Flights

Wed Mar 24, 2004 11:57 pm

Sorry, by A320 I was referring to the 320 series (ie: 319/320/321), as I was not sure which exact ones are flown.

Sebastian
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Jetmek319
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A320 Series Trans-atlantic Flights

Thu Mar 25, 2004 3:03 am

When we (Frontier) ferry our A319's/A318's out of Hamburg (HAM) we go non-stop to Bangor, Maine to clear customs. We can go to Boston but not much further. This is with full fuel, max of 25 pax, and no additional fuel tanks.
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donder10
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RE: A320 Series Trans-atlantic Flights

Thu Mar 25, 2004 8:17 am

AF are flying a 319LR(not their own aircraft)from CDG to Pointe-Noire,Congo(-Brazzaville).About an 8 hour flight with max capacity of 82 afaik.
 
744rules
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RE: A320 Series Trans-atlantic Flights

Thu Mar 25, 2004 8:21 am

The Privatair 319 has additional fueltanks, the size/volume of 3 akh. This reduces the holdspace in such way, that stowing probs might occur on full flights (= 48pax)
 
pilatusguy
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RE: A320 Series Trans-atlantic Flights

Thu Mar 25, 2004 6:02 pm

More infos see: http://www.privatair.com
 
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RE: A320 Series Trans-atlantic Flights

Fri Mar 26, 2004 5:50 am

OK, so what's a Nimbus 3000? The Privatair website doesn't seem to mention it....

Thanks in advance!

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RE: A320 Series Trans-atlantic Flights

Fri Mar 26, 2004 7:04 am

SLCPilot: OK, so what's a Nimbus 3000? The Privatair website doesn't seem to mention it....

I was already wondering if there was a long range version... But the passengers might find it slightly uncomfortable for long haul...  Big thumbs up

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