saab2000
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FCC Radio License - What Is That?

Sat Mar 27, 2004 11:24 pm

Hello All you FAA Pilots out there!

I have a job interview coming up and am in the process of assembling all my necessary papers. One of those papers is the FCC Radio License. What is this? I was never informed of any such license, other than that about 6 years ago when I got my Private License I was told that this is no longer a requirement. I just spend 3 months at FlightSafety getting my US CPL/IFR/ME and never heard a word about a radio license.

Could someone fill me in here? What am I missing?
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RE: FCC Radio License - What Is That?

Sat Mar 27, 2004 11:32 pm

It is what it says.

It is the license that the FCC requires to operate radios.

VHF air band no longer requires the license if you operate in the US only, but go overseas or run HF gear and you will need it.

If you note, you should have another "radio station" license in the aircraft to cover the radios themselves.

The FCC also requires other licenses if you want to fix radio or radars, just about anything else that emits RF radiation.

Getting the license is simple enough, download the form, write a check and mail it. The bottom of the form is actually your temp certificate.
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RE: FCC Radio License - What Is That?

Sun Mar 28, 2004 2:06 am

It is required if you leave the country.
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RE: FCC Radio License - What Is That?

Sun Mar 28, 2004 3:09 am

The Restricted Radiotelephone Operator's Licence requires a written and/or practical (or oral) test in many countries in the world. Radio basics theory, English language communications, communications rules, etc...
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So those of you required to get one (as our friend Jhooper mentions, to operate an aircraft radio while outside the USA), consider yourself lucky that you do not have any test to obtain it. Just send an application by mail, and a check for the FCC... You may be required, while overseas, to show your pilot license AND your radio license...
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While VHF radios are quite easy to use, I would recommend, should you be required to use a HF radio, to learn basic radio basic theory, propagation etc. Some radio amateur stores sell little booklets for that subject. HF radio in aircraft are equivalent to Ham "Shortwave" equipment, operating between 2,000 and 30,000 kHz. Collins Radio, in Cedar City, Iowa, can probably send you a small operator booklet for the model "618T" which is common airline HF radio equipment. Maybe even for free.
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RE: FCC Radio License - What Is That?

Sun Mar 28, 2004 4:25 am

Thanks for the answers guys.

Skipper - When I did my European licenses we spent a lot of time on radio theory and waves and limitations, etc. Additionally, I took a "voice" course, learning the ICAO standard phraseology. At first I did not like it as I am a native English speaker (speak other languages too) but once I started flying commercially all over Europe I was glad that there was a standard phraseology. It eased communication problems quite a bit and ultimately it was many of the native English speakers who used non-standard phraseology and slang who caused many foul-ups of communication.

I am surprised that during all my training from Private to Commercial with instrument ratings NOBODY once ever mentioned to me that I will need a radio license from the FCC. This is truly new to me.
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RE: FCC Radio License - What Is That?

Sun Mar 28, 2004 4:38 am

Dear Saab2000 -
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Funny is, I was a radio Ham as a hobby since I was teenager, shortwaves, but even the Air Force, and the airlines back then had quite involved courses.
Ended up with an FCC Extra Class Ham license... I hardly practice anymore, except sometimes with the HF radios on board of the aircraft.
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What you learned in Europe, you probably do not get in USA nowadays... The airlines there nowadays are... tune, take the mike and talk... American pilots' phraseology is not the best when in international airspaces. Heard many ATC centers who are confused, or ask flights to repeat their transmissions. And in turn, US air carriers say that ATC controllers overseas do not understand English well...
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RE: FCC Radio License - What Is That?

Sun Mar 28, 2004 8:44 am

I´ve got a problem: I´m working on American registered aircraft. Often enough I´ve got to test HF radios or simply call for engine startup clearance. On the other hand I´m German, based in Germany.
I tried to applly for a FCC licence, but apparently they give them only to holders of a FAA pilot´s licence, not a FAA A&P licence. On the other hand the airplanes are American territory, with FCC registered radio stations...
What licence would be valid for me?

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RE: FCC Radio License - What Is That?

Sun Mar 28, 2004 7:28 pm

Hey Skipper, the 618T is actually a dinosaur in HF technology!
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RE: FCC Radio License - What Is That?

Mon Mar 29, 2004 9:41 am

MD11Engineer:
In the US an FAA A&P allows you to transmit just like a FAA Pilot's ticket. I've used radios for transmission tests as well as taxi and runup. What would a German certifed mechanic do in these cases. Do they need a operators cert to talk to ground control?
 
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RE: FCC Radio License - What Is That?

Tue Mar 30, 2004 12:56 am

I think he would need a restricted air radiotelephone operator´s licence, which includes a long, hard oral and written exam and isn´t cheap...

Jan

I just asked because I operate radios (VHF and HF)on American registered aircraft outside the US.

Jan
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