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Delays! What Are The Costs?

Sat Apr 24, 2004 5:15 pm

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With airports becoming congested & slot constraint what are the costs when aircraft are delayed? Confused What happens when an airline/aircraft misses a peak hour slot? Confused How much does the NEW slot allocation cost? Confused


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RE: Delays! What Are The Costs?

Sat Apr 24, 2004 6:29 pm

With airports becoming congested & slot constraint what are the costs when aircraft are delayed?

Try this...it isn't up-to-date by any means (sorry!), but might give you a ballpark idea of what you want to know...

As for slot costs, I dunno...

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RE: Delays! What Are The Costs?

Sat Apr 24, 2004 8:58 pm

If you miss the ATC slot you don't have to pay for another.
The slots that you refer are airport slots that are used only for planning purposes.
If you miss the slot (real name are CTOT) it cost lots of bad word.
 
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RE: Delays! What Are The Costs?

Mon Apr 26, 2004 3:19 pm

I attended a reliability briefing a few months ago and they said our MD-11 delays for one quarter cost us $6 million dollars!! Our MD-11's only count for about 1/6 of our fleet!
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RE: Delays! What Are The Costs?

Mon Apr 26, 2004 8:01 pm

Here are some that I can conjure in my mind right now, it's from an article I read half a year ago, I think. Maybe longer than that, though it was quite interesting. Some of this is from that, some I just came up with off the top of my head.

Increased fuel consumption costs to make ETA in certain situations, either because the a/c itself is on a high utilization rate, or you need your passengers to make it for their connecting flights. ATC delays is also a major factor in increased fuel costs, which usually have a domino effect. Delays on the taxi will increase fuel consumption, and in certain extreme cases, may cause fuel related diversions, which is a separate can of worms altogether. Weather related delays have a similar effect. If an aircraft is late, and another aircraft has to be repositioned to take it's place, that can cost quite a bit of money.

Staff utilization rates will also increase, as staff and crew are likely to get overtime pay if their duty hours add up in the end. Then you have to consider aircraft that are leased on a per hour basis, or something similar. I'm not really familiar with these matters, so I can't tell you how that works.

Then there are the passengers, who's time is money, so to speak. The costs of compensating the passenger, if they miss their connection, can cost a lot of money. Putting them up in a hotel, for example, or direct compensation in terms of cash. Then the airlines actually put a value on passenger time, and that just blows my mind.

 
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RE: Delays! What Are The Costs?

Wed Apr 28, 2004 12:11 am

An average figure is upwards of £1600 per minute.

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RE: Delays! What Are The Costs?

Wed Apr 28, 2004 6:03 am

"Staff utilization rates will also increase, as staff and crew are likely to get overtime pay if their duty hours add up in the end."

Even worse for the airline, existing crews may go out of hours and be unable to complete the duty period, requiring a new crew to be called out on standby. Often pilots might be called to work on a rostered day off which attracts a nice payment for them (in my previous carrier, we got £350 (US$630) just for working a day off on request, that's before duty pay for the work itself, and this was quite common in the height of the Summer).
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