ba97
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Nose Paint-a Black Nose

Mon May 03, 2004 9:46 am

I read historic threads but could not find the answer....
In looking at historic photos of planes (e.g. 707, DC8...) the area under the windscreen had black paint. BOAC looked like it was their deep blue. Was this just a livery colour or did it serve a function (e.g. anti glare). If needed, what has changed in paint or other that modern planes do not have the black nose top. I personally loved it on planes with the cheat line coming up to the nose.
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QantasA332
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RE: Nose Paint-a Black Nose

Mon May 03, 2004 9:58 am

In looking at historic photos of planes (e.g. 707, DC8...) the area under the windscreen had black paint... Was this just a livery colour or did it serve a function (e.g. anti glare).

It would have helped to a certain degree in reducing glare...

As for what might haved changed such that modern aircraft couldn't really benefit from that, I don't know, to be honest...

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RE: Nose Paint-a Black Nose

Mon May 03, 2004 10:54 am

As a side note, Delta's old widget livery included a black nose. The cheatline was dark blue and careful inspection of the nose would reveal black. I'm not sure if this was an attempt to reduce glare.
 
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RE: Nose Paint-a Black Nose

Mon May 03, 2004 3:54 pm

The noses used to be black because of the radar. Most paints in the 60s and 70s were not radar invisible. The black paint that was used didn't effect the radar. The current pigments in the paint don't show on the radar.
 
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RE: Nose Paint-a Black Nose

Mon May 03, 2004 8:19 pm

By the way, is there anyone on board who knows how to fly a plane?
 
ba97
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RE: Nose Paint-a Black Nose

Mon May 03, 2004 9:56 pm

thanks--sorry for the repeat. I am learning they buzz terms to write to search back topics.
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RE: Nose Paint-a Black Nose

Mon May 03, 2004 10:07 pm

The noses used to be black because of the radar.

I could be wrrong, but I assume the original question had to do with the paint just forward of the windscreen, not on the nose cone.

If you look at older designs, the nose in front of the windscreen was in more direct view of the flight crews. Newer aircraft tend to have a nose geometry that removes the nose from view of the cockpit.

I'm sure if someone comes up with a longer nose in view of the pilots, you'll see a return of the black paint.
 
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RE: Nose Paint-a Black Nose

Tue May 11, 2004 6:06 am

this might be off topic... but most (if not all) Indian Airlines A300's have black noses, but not their A320's. I agree Ba97 I think it looks good  Smile


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RE: Nose Paint-a Black Nose

Tue May 11, 2004 6:26 am

Here is another thread on black noses:
http://www.airliners.net/discussions/general_aviation/read.main/1320951/6/

Use the Search tool to see if this topic has been discussed previously.

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