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707 - 737 Comparison

Fri May 14, 2004 2:17 am

I've wondered about this for some time now. How do the 737-800 and 737-900 stack up against the 707s with regard to passenger loads and range? At first glance, they seem to be comparable from a size perspective. Just curious if these particular '37s have the same range as the '07.
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RE: 707 - 737 Comparison

Fri May 14, 2004 2:43 am

Aw, that's no fun. I was hoping to read all sorts of stuff from the aviation pundits on this site!  Smile
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RE: 707 - 737 Comparison

Fri May 14, 2004 2:56 am

So based on that data the 707-120s were only 6 feet longer than the 738s? That seems about right---but were there not some longer stretched 707 types--nothing as long as some of the super stretch DC8s obviously but based o that picture of the 707-120B in the dimensions window it seems like a "shorter" 707.
 
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RE: 707 - 737 Comparison

Fri May 14, 2004 3:02 am

www.boeing.com has an excellent search library of their in production and out of production products.

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RE: 707 - 737 Comparison

Fri May 14, 2004 4:30 am

Some interesting figures from the above links:

707-120B
Length: 144ft 6in
Passengers (2 class config): 110

707-320B
Length: 152ft 11in
Passengers (2 class config): 147

737-800
Length: 129ft 6in
Passengers (2 class config): 162

737-900
Length: 138ft 2in
Passengers (2 class config) 177

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RE: 707 - 737 Comparison

Fri May 14, 2004 4:44 am

Well this is slightly off topic, but when I was flying an Air Canada Zip 737-200, instead of the windowshade having the 737 logo mounted on top of the handle, it contained the 707 logo. Seems to me at least the windowshades between these aircraft are easily transferrable!
 
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RE: 707 - 737 Comparison

Fri May 14, 2004 5:08 am

You bet they all have the samme passenger windows on the following Boeings listed below:
707, 720, 727, 737 and 757.
Remember all of these share the same common passenger section of the fuselage.

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RE: 707 - 737 Comparison

Fri May 14, 2004 5:16 am

Gentlemen:

Is the fuseclage dimension of the 737 and the 707 the same?

How about the 757 and 737-

When I go into a 757 it appears larger and the cargo area looks larger- or is this simply because its higher off the ground. I know the width is the same in all three.
 
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RE: 707 - 737 Comparison

Fri May 14, 2004 5:18 am

Performance wise the B-738 and B-720 (not 720B) are practically identical.

Practically
- same cabin floor area
- same range.

The 738 is a little slower, but uses less than half the fuel and generates only a small fraction of the 720-noise.
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RE: 707 - 737 Comparison

Fri May 14, 2004 6:59 am

The 757 is an entirely different design.
The 707, 727, &737 fuselage share the same base dimensions. Even the base part number for the radome is the same.
However, the technology used in construction is markedly different. Fuselage components (stringers, wing mounts, and other structural components) are not interchangable between the various models of the aircraft and not even in 737 iterations.
The bolt-ons are very much the same items hence the window shades and other accessories. There are different fire qualifications and other things but essentially, if the part would bolt into a 707 it will probably bolt into a 737NG (seats, sidewalls, bins, lavs, galleys, etc.)
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RE: 707 - 737 Comparison

Fri May 14, 2004 9:42 am

I've got to state, I was surprised to learn that this topic was moved over to this forum. Considering aviation is a hobby for me, I didn't expect anything I posted would be considered so high-brow that it would make the Tech/Ops forum.  Smile

Thanks for the follow-up. As wonderful an aircraft the '37 has been over the decades, there is just something special about the lines of the '07 with those four sleek engines hanging from wing. (Hope that wasn't too technical for you guys.)  Big grin
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RE: 707 - 737 Comparison

Fri May 14, 2004 11:44 am

Interesting to compare the various Boeing aircraft, however the B707-320B (advanced) aircraft had a maximum seating capacity of 189 (or with extra exits installed, 215) and with a fuel capacity in excess of 23,000 USGallons, was capable of flights of 12 hours.
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RE: 707 - 737 Comparison

Fri May 14, 2004 1:01 pm

The exterior cross section of the 707, 720, 727, 737, and 757 fuselage is 148in/3.78m

The interior cross section of the 737 all models is listed at 139.2in/3.54m. The 707, 720, and 757 is listed as 139.3in/3.54m. The 727 is listed as 140in/3.56m.

The height of the cabin varies because of the trim and OHB.

The cargo compartments are not all that different in height, at least in the fwd compartment. The fwd cargo compartment in the 707/720 is shown as 44.3in/1.13m, 727 and 757 44in/1.12m, and the 737 as 44.2in/1.12m. The rear cargo compartment isn't listed for the 707/720, the 737 is listed at 46.8in/1/19m, the 727 at 54in/1.37m, and the 757 53.9in/1.37m
 
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RE: 707 - 737 Comparison

Fri May 14, 2004 6:22 pm

As I am not qualified to talk about the 707(not even flew one also) I can't compare the two.But to compare passenger/load you have to find the operation cost /pax.I think with its newer design and efficent engines 737 NG provides better profit to the operator.

Talking about sardines you should see all economy configuration of 737800 which can accomodate 189 Y class passengers.
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RE: 707 - 737 Comparison

Fri May 14, 2004 10:33 pm

A flight school that advertises in the back of Flying Magazine many years ago had a photo of one of their airplanes taxing past a 737-300 parked in the background.

This school, just to judge how effective their add was, had a second engine airbrushed onto the right wing, the 737 being in 3/4 view.

Apparently the magazine was flooded with letters trying to find out the ID of that aircraft type. Big grin

A lot of people thought it might have been a 707 without the HF antenna and retrofitted with CFM's.
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