cancidas
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Questions For The Ramp Rats

Thu Jul 15, 2004 8:17 am

1. is your rain gear effective in keeping you dry? mine isn't, the sleeves are too short and the hood is too damn big.

2. what do you have written on the back of your safety vest? on mine it says: "i am first, and foremost, a pilot."

3. do other rampies steal your equipment constantly? all the damn time.

4. how much time per shift do you spend hanging out with the gate agents? for me, about 30% is spent inside the gates break room.

5. have you ever popped a wheelie in a tug? yes, we broke a globe ground tug doing just that.

6. have you ever burned out a belt loader? yes

7. what's the most carts you've pulled with one tug? at LGA, 4 is the max allowed. at another airport, 11.

8. how many layers of clothes do you wear under your uniform in the winter? not too many, i'm white.
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doug_or
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RE: Questions For The Ramp Rats

Thu Jul 15, 2004 8:32 am

its all past tense for me, but....

1. is your rain gear effective in keeping you dry?

It wasn't bad, but I'd still wind up wet.

2. what do you have written on the back of your safety vest?

this vest intentialy left blank

3. do other rampies steal your equipment constantly?

all the damn time.
ditto

4. how much time per shift do you spend hanging out with the gate agents?

did cargo. spent about 15% hanging out with boxes.



5. have you ever popped a wheelie in a tug?

as a passenger

6. have you ever burned out a belt loader?

nope

7. what's the most carts you've pulled with one tug?

4, the max allowed.

8. how many layers of clothes do you wear under your uniform in the winter?

got up to 5 in the winter.

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SlamClick
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RE: Questions For The Ramp Rats

Thu Jul 15, 2004 11:06 am

It has been a long time since these applied to me, but here they are.

1. is your rain gear effective in keeping you dry?

Didn't have any but it was southern California.


2. what do you have written on the back of your safety vest?

Didn't have to wear one but my Army helmet cover had a quote from Shakespeare on it:
"Had they any intellectual armor they would never wear such heavy headpieces."


3. do other rampies steal your equipment constantly?

My yogurt out of the fridge, all the time.
Sawmill was worse, someone on the night shift used to steal my gloves.


4. how much time per shift do you spend hanging out with the gate agents?

Didn't apply at an FBO, but I avoided the office.


5. have you ever popped a wheelie in a tug?

No, but I saw a guy at Mercury in LAX pop one in a 4400 gallon two-axle fuel truck.
He sort of woke up rolling backwards and slammed on the binders.


6. have you ever burned out a belt loader?

No, but I yanked the bed right off a Thiokol snow cat.


7. what's the most carts you've pulled with one tug?

One. But I pushed an L-188 back into the corner with a half-ton Ford pickup.
I will NEVER try that again.


8. how many layers of clothes do you wear under your uniform in the winter?

Southern California winter? You wear socks.

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FL1TPA
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RE: Questions For The Ramp Rats

Fri Jul 16, 2004 8:41 am

Keeping in mind I work in TPA - a sub-tropical environment:

1) I use rain gear quite often on summer afternoons and it does a good job of keeping me from getting soaked, but I'm still wet. I roll the front of the hood up to keep it from falling down and covering my entire face.

2) We aren't required to wear the vest, thank GOD!

3) Most of the equipment on the ramp is "communnity" equipment. This is occationally bad if other rampers carry ALL the wands to another gate and your plane is halfway down the line! You end up looking like an idiot guiding a 717 in flapping your arms with no wands!

4) I hang out with gate agents almost all the time when I'm not working a flight. We all share a common break room so this is usually unavoidable.

5) I have popped a wheelie on a tug in our bag make-up room where noone could see.

6) Just last week a belt loader broke. In the middle of loading a 737 the belt just stopped. Later we found out the belt drive chain broke.

7) I, personally, have only towed 4 or 5 carts - empty. I have seen a Delta agent tugging 17 - no joke - 17 carts with cans accross the TPA ramp!

8) Being in Florida, where we have about 2 weeks of winter, I need to wear more than 1 layer for maybe a month on average.

There ya have it.

Tim.

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RE: Questions For The Ramp Rats

Fri Jul 16, 2004 9:45 am

1. Yes, but you sweat under it, so the rain may not get you wet, but your sweat will

2. Air Boss

3. No. I work for AirTran, we steal other peoples stuff rather than buying our own.

4. I'm a Supervisor, so I'm all over the place

5. Who hasn't?

6. Yup. Burnouts too.

7. 12 carts while working for ServisAir in GRR

8. One layer. I'm hardcore like that, and MKE winters are cold too
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cancidas
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RE: Questions For The Ramp Rats

Fri Jul 16, 2004 12:28 pm

one more question. in the winter, how long will you continue to wear shorts?the mainline US guys here at LGA have a long-term bet going so they can be seen doing it for a long time. i think that to stand out a little at work i'll wear shorts until at least january this year, provided i'm not de-icing...


oh FL1TPA, what was that DL agent doing with 17 carts? were they the single-can or dual-can type?
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RE: Questions For The Ramp Rats

Fri Jul 16, 2004 12:51 pm

1. is your rain gear effective in keeping you dry? With the daily T-Storms here, my shoes are always wet.

2. what do you have written on the back of your safety vest? Hah, what vest? Mine says nothing (when I wear it)

3. do other rampies steal your equipment constantly? Not too often.

4. how much time per shift do you spend hanging out with the gate agents? Probably 30% of the time inside on the internet.

5. have you ever popped a wheelie in a tug? My supervisor did it, I haven't....yet  Smile .

6. have you ever burned out a belt loader? no

7. what's the most carts you've pulled with one tug? N/A

8. how many layers of clothes do you wear under your uniform in the winter? This is Florida, what winter?
 
SkydrolBoy
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RE: Questions For The Ramp Rats

Fri Jul 16, 2004 1:16 pm

My answers are in past tense aswell...

1. is your rain gear effective in keeping you dry? nope, but at YVR nothing can keep you dry

2. what do you have written on the back of your safety vest? used to have "this side up" writtern upside down

3. do other rampies steal your equipment constantly? nope, because i used to pop the hood and take the distributor wire with me

4. how much time per shift do you spend hanging out with the gate agents? none of them were worth spending any time with

5. have you ever popped a wheelie in a tug? yup, i popped a wheelie at the same time as having all 4 carts up on two wheels

6. have you ever burned out a belt loader? nope, but Airport Security gave me a speeding ticket for doing 85km/h down the ramp on one

7. what's the most carts you've pulled with one tug? 12

8. how many layers of clothes do you wear under your uniform in the winter? 2.




 
FL1TPA
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RE: Questions For The Ramp Rats

Sun Jul 18, 2004 6:34 am

Cancidas:

They were the single can type and it was in the middle of the night at about 0030 or 0100. He probably thought no one would notice. HCAA (Hillsborough County Aviation Authority) would've ticketed faster than it took me to pop that wheelie.

Tim.

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fxra
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RE: Questions For The Ramp Rats

Sun Jul 18, 2004 6:46 am

1. is your rain gear effective in keeping you dry? Never, always came in soggy.. if nto from the rain, the gear kept the heat an you'd sweat

2. what do you have written on the back of your safety vest? Mine just said "Doc" (we had an all 7 dwarves)

3. do other rampies steal your equipment constantly? Nope, i worked cargo ramp, kinda all alone out there.. occasionaly some one would borrow a main deck loader, but those are hard to hide

4. how much time per shift do you spend hanging out with the gate agents? Again, worked cargo... downtimes we'd hit the internet or card games (in good weather football on the ramp)

5. have you ever popped a wheelie in a tug? yes, and hydroplned one for fun, removed a govenor for fun, seen one rolled over... oops

6. have you ever burned out a belt loader? nope

7. what's the most carts you've pulled with one tug? company policy was 4 dollies... however, i've pulled 15 or so to clean out a gate in a hurry

8. how many layers of clothes do you wear under your uniform in the winter? I live in the south, our winter concept is vastly differnt than northenr staed, start lkayering at 60 F

i kinda miss those days1
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707guy
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RE: Questions For The Ramp Rats

Sun Jul 18, 2004 7:54 am

1. Yeah - rain gear keeps the heat in so you're always wet...kinda given up on trying to stay dry....

2. Nothing - go through them too fast to write anything....

3. Not yet......

4. Don't really hang out because we have seperate break rooms, but do BS while waiting on a flight to come in.....

5. Of course.....

6. Nope - but spun a couple out in the winter.....

7. 4 - limit here in CLE

8. Who cares how many - as long as you're warm! Pretty much three or four depending on the temps....
 
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RE: Questions For The Ramp Rats

Sun Jul 18, 2004 9:01 am

Since I am an ex-ramper (I'm considering a return to the field), my answers relate to the past:

1. No. ATL is not called Hotlanta for nothing. You may stay dry from the rain, but you end up soaked in sweat. It's even worse when you're having to drive to landside and having the rain blowing into your rainsuit.

2. Nothing. The only thing I ever wrote on my vest was my name on the front.

3. Yes they did. You'd have to hide your lockout pins, your headsets (and headset adapters), night wands, and even GSE from other gate crews.

4. Maybe 10% of the time. Usually if we went upstairs to get a bag screen, or if they came down to get a bag count, or just to pass any info that we may not have heard yet regarding the flight (sometimes the gate agents knew before the ramp would).

5. Yes

6. Nope

7. Empty: 8; loaded, 6 (4 was the max, but 2 of those carts were transfers to the gates right next to our gate.)

8. Atlanta is not really brutally cold during most of the winter, so usually I'd have a pair of long underwear underneath my uniform, and usually a sweatshirt over my uniform shirt, and if it was really windy, I'd put a pair of windpants on as a layer between my work pants and long underwear. I'd normally not have to put my coat on until around sundown, but would usually have it on but unzipped.
 
cancidas
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RE: Questions For The Ramp Rats

Sun Jul 18, 2004 11:15 am

man, i love this thread. keep it coming!!
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RE: Questions For The Ramp Rats

Wed Jul 21, 2004 4:36 am

1. is your rain gear effective in keeping you dry? Is any raingear, NO!

2. what do you have written on the back of your safety vest? "What do YOU want?"

3. do other rampies steal your equipment constantly? Yes, but I steal it back and more.

4. how much time per shift do you spend hanging out with the gate agents? (Past tense) 30%

5. have you ever popped a wheelie in a tug? Yep, towed another one (tried to) with another tug.

6. have you ever burned out a belt loader? Nope, fell off quite a few though.

7. what's the most carts you've pulled with one tug? 6

8. how many layers of clothes do you wear under your uniform in the winter? Since I'm in Wisconsin, probably 4.



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ramprat
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RE: Questions For The Ramp Rats

Wed Jul 21, 2004 8:53 am

1. is your rain gear effective in keeping you dry? Nope

2. what do you have written on the back of your safety vest? ? How YOU Doin

3. do other rampies steal your equipment constantly? yes, but what goes around comes around

4. how much time per shift do you spend hanging out with the gate agents? Hardly any time at all

5. have you ever popped a wheelie in a tug? Who hasn't?

6. have you ever burned out a belt loader? Can't say i have

7. what's the most carts you've pulled with one tug? 12, but it was on night shift, and we were cleaning the ramp up, 6 is supposed to be the most

8. how many layers of clothes do you wear under your uniform in the winter? 2, maybe 3

 
freshlove1
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RE: Questions For The Ramp Rats

Wed Jul 21, 2004 12:11 pm

1.Yes it does a good job
2.Nothing, All we have is the company logo on the back
3.Nope, we all got our own stuff
4.None, we do it all so I would be hanging out with my self if that was the case.
5.Yes
6.Nope not yet, those things are industructable
7.4 carts
8.the regular work uniform plus a winter jump suit does the job.
 
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RE: Questions For The Ramp Rats

Tue Jul 27, 2004 1:46 pm

1. Yeah mine did good, just bought a rain jacket from Wal-Mart that happened to be in DL colors, worked great.
2. I wrote " Delta Air Lines"
3. Yeah my earmuffs, gloves, and clean socks got taken regularly....at least leave a man a pair of dry socks!
4. Yeah we hung out probably 10% of the time...They were paid alot more so....lol
5. Ohh yea
6. Yeah i put diesel in a gas.....GSE loved me for that, and yeah we have two or three old Wollards that are POS's, they go regularly
7. 4 here....have pulled 6 freight cans at teh freight house just to move soem around...not full or long distance
8. I wore long johns, a t-shirt, regular work pants, and a work shirt, plus a wind breaker/rain repellant jacket. Plus gloves, hat, and sometimes a scarf wound my ears

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yokohama1970
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RE: Questions For The Ramp Rats

Thu Jul 29, 2004 6:29 pm

1. I use rain gear in the winter time. our winter rainy days here are like late fall days back in Pittsburgh & Rhode Island.

summertime? no way! the cold rain feels great! but, the monsoons always generate numerous/frequent lightning strikes, incredible winds & tons of gritty/fine dust.

2. PHX Aviation does not require safety vests here. certain Airlines do though, CO (we had to wear them when we worked the CO contract). BA (HP contrac t), AA, DL, HP new hires & Mesa new hires.

3. i work for America West, we never have enough push tugs, bag tugs, tail carts, tow bars or nose gear bypass pins. so yeah! some co-workers take that very personally, crazy!

4. if a hottie is working one of our gates. AWA in PHX is a hub, so we all have seperate breakrooms (pax service, ramp, pilots lounge, in-flight crew rest, mechanics).

5. yes, with one of the old continental bag tugs or united push tugs.

6. nope! they either work or not, quite often the newest belt loaders breakdown before the relics.

7. 5 or 6 carts, during graveyard shift. straight-line pulls during "cart round-up."

8. wintertime? since we average mid-50's to low 70's in wintertime, Dickies pants, long sleeve t-shirt, with small tee underneath, long crew socks. if i work AM shift in winter i usually wear a wind breaker, work gloves & possibly a knit cap.

summertime? shorts & tee shirt. i wear a small white tee under & ankle-cut socks. as little as possible! PHX is really hot in the summertime! especially with concrete, asphalt & jet blast!

TUS, LAS, PSP, FAT, ELP, SAT, DFW, IAH, BRO, MSY, JAX, TPA, FLL, RSW, MIA, EYW & others understand. heat waves come & go, but our daily 100+ degree summer days are 4-5 months long (May-Oct). Texas & Florida have it the worst! i lived in South Miami/Coral Gables, for 2 years as a child. don't try to walk to your neighbor's house without flip-flops! i will never forget 101 degrees in houston, that was a million times worse than our 119 degree day last year! or the 122 degree day in summer 1996! Texas summers blow!

no offense, it's stuff you already knew about.


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RE: Questions For The Ramp Rats

Thu Jul 29, 2004 6:46 pm

Hi all!

I used to work as a ramp rat not so long time ago, but not anymore but giving my answers also...

1. My trousers are always wet and I get very sweaty under the rain gear so maybe not so dry Big grin

2. Only the name of my company

3. Yep, you have to keep an eye on your ear phones and gloves!!

4. 0%, I usually get a vehicle and go driving around the airport if I have spare time

5. Nope

6. No. They are working or not working especially during the cold winter months

7. Let me think, 22 or 23. Because the carts are so small this is a typical number for a fully loaded 757

8. Only one layer under the uniform


Happy landings and good weather for the ramp rats! Big grin

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FinnWings
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RE: Questions For The Ramp Rats

Thu Jul 29, 2004 9:17 pm

1) No it isn't... I'm also sweating when wearing the rain gear a lot and therefore don't like it at all. When raining, I'm volunteer go to inside the cargo compartment...but so are my colleagues as well! Just wondering why...  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

2) Nothing special... only my company name.

3) No, never happened to me.

4) I don't hang out with gate agents at all... we are located in separate buildings and when they are working at the gate, I don't want to disturb them.

5) No...

6) No, belt loaders are very unreliable... Like stated earlier the newest are the worst. In winter months their reliability percentage is around 30%...

7) Zero

8) Only one... no matter even it might be -20C! We Finns are so used to cold in the winter that don't even basically need much clothes!  Laugh out loud

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