wardialer
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Part Of This Flight Plan? What Does It Mean?

Fri Jul 30, 2004 9:52 am

KLAX.LAXX5.TRM.J236.EED..PGS..HBU258140..SNY273094..PIR037009..ABR..YQT.J481.YFM.J481.YKL..HO..LOACH..5500N/05000W..5500N/04000W..5500N/03000W..5500N/02000W..MASIT.UN546.DEVOL.UL975.WAL.UM16.DOLAS.UL603.TEBRO.T150.ROLIS.ROLIS1E.EDDF/0945

I need help understanding this plan layout. Especially the ones with this

HBU258140.

Could anyone give me an example on what those numbers mean after the VOR??? (Like the one example above)?

If anyones intrested I got this from a Flight tracking website called www.fboweb.com only $10.00/mnth. It also lets you view the Flight Plans Information. Really cool

 
ScooterTrash
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RE: Part Of This Flight Plan? What Does It Mean?

Fri Jul 30, 2004 9:59 am

I can't help you with the identities of the three letter idents... I have no idea where this flight plan is even going! Big grin

However:

HBU258140 means the HBU VOR 258 degree radial / 140 mile fix.

i.e. 140 West Southwest of wherever HBU is.

Note: HBU could conceivably be an NDB, but that isn't very likely.

Scooter

 
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RE: Part Of This Flight Plan? What Does It Mean?

Fri Jul 30, 2004 9:59 am

HBU258140 is a contraction meaning "Flying to this point: 140 miles out from HBU VOR on the 258 radial."
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coa764
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RE: Part Of This Flight Plan? What Does It Mean?

Fri Jul 30, 2004 11:18 am

KLAX.LAXX5.TRM.J236.EED..PGS..HBU258140..SNY273094..PIR037009..ABR..YQT.J481.YFM.J481.YKL..HO..LOACH

KLAX to lAXX5 DEPARTURE http://www.laartcc.org/charts/DP-LAXX.pdf to TRM thermal VOR to J236 jetroute 236 to EED needles VOR direct PGS peach springs VOR direct 258 degrees 140 nautical miles from HBU blue mesa VOR direct 273 degrees 94 miles from SNY sidney VOR direct 097 degrees 9 miles from PIR pierre VOR direct ABR aberdeen VOR direct YQT thunder bay VOR to J481 jetroute 481 to YFM LG 4 NDB to J481 jetroute 481 to YKL schefferville VOR direct HO hopedale NDB direct LOACH waypoint ...
Your route stops there but LOACH is a coast out point into NAT/MNPS (North Atlantic Track/Minimum Navigation Performance Specification) airspace.

On a flight plan
one dot (TRM.J263) means 'to'
two dots (YKL..HO) means 'direct'
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Woodreau
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RE: Part Of This Flight Plan? What Does It Mean?

Sat Jul 31, 2004 12:59 am

I don't know why some posts don't wordwrap. But the entire flight plan is this:

KLAX.LAXX5.TRM.J236.EED..PGS..HBU258140..SNY273094..PIR037009..ABR..YQT.J481.YFM.J481.YKL..HO..LOACH..5500N/05000W..5500N/04000W..5500N/03000W..5500N/02000W..MASIT.UN546.DEVOL.UL975.WAL.UM16.DOLAS.UL603.TEBRO.T150.ROLIS.ROLIS1E.EDDF/0945

Looks like it ends up in Frankfurt Main, Germany.

Wardialer, if you shoot me an email to wongs@lha3.navy.mil I can put the route graphically on PowerPoint. I did the same thing with Bruce's KHSV to EBLG flight plan in his post.

If your e-mail can handle at 12-15MB attachment I can send it as one file, otherwise I'll send it one at a time.

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wardialer
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RE: Part Of This Flight Plan? What Does It Mean?

Tue Aug 07, 2012 12:14 pm

Are the distances in the RADIALS for example HBU258140 (258 degrees 140 nautical miles from HBU blue mesa VOR) are always in NAUTICAL MILES?

Or, could be in MILES as well like for SNY273094 (273 degrees 94 miles from SNY sidney VOR)?

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RE: Part Of This Flight Plan? What Does It Mean?

Tue Aug 07, 2012 12:45 pm

Quoting Woodreau (Reply 4):

I don't know why some posts don't wordwrap

You have to put some spaces between the fixes. The stupid forum software cannot wordwrap when there are "..." in between the fixes.
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RE: Part Of This Flight Plan? What Does It Mean?

Tue Aug 07, 2012 1:06 pm

Quoting wardialer (Reply 5):
Are the distances in the RADIALS for example HBU258140 (258 degrees 140 nautical miles from HBU blue mesa VOR) are always in NAUTICAL MILES?

As far as I know, yes. Flight planing is always in nm.

Quoting wardialer (Reply 5):
Or, could be in MILES as well like for SNY273094 (273 degrees 94 miles from SNY sidney VOR)?

If it were in miles it would have to be flagged as such (either for that fix or for the whole flight plan). Absent information to the contrary, a flight crew will assume nm.

Tom.

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